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Can you really avoid iTunes if you have apple devices?
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January 12, 2012
10:58 PM
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I find one MUST use iTunes Cry if one has iPod Touch/iPhone/iPad, one way or the other. There are workarounds, however, NONE of the methods can avoid using iTunes at some point. For example, if you use MediaMonkey/Winamp/SharePod, you can get iTunes hack (that only installs Apple mobile device support and QuickTime) in order to transfer the songs to your device using that 3rd party software and without using iTunes, however, what about iOS update? Even though you can download iOS update without iTunes (workaround exists), you must use iTunes to install those updates.

 

Bottomline: I am still using iTunes/QuickTime in my PC since I have an iPod Touch and I need to view QuickTime contents in Apple website (and, in some other educational websites, too).

 

If anybody knows any method that can avoid iTunes/QuickTime all the way, let me know! I wanna avoid them because they are too heavy and less useful.

January 14, 2012
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mukhi said:

If anybody knows any method that can avoid iTunes/QuickTime all the way, let me know! I wanna avoid them because they are too heavy and less useful.

There is an App. (for windows) called “Sharepod”  Don't know if it is what you're looking for (it's on my list of “to be tried”), but the developer says:

“SharePod is easy to use and works! Heres some of the main features:

  • Add & remove music and videos from your iPod
  • Add, remove and edit playlists
  • Add & remove album art
  • View and backup photos
  • Copy music, videos and playlists from your iPod to PC
  • Import music/videos into your iTunes library, including playlists and ratings
  • Tag editing
  • Drag n' drop to and from Explorer
  • Simple, clean interface
  • Quick to load and use with no unnessary complicated features
  • Support for iPhone and iTouch (Thanks to Nikias Bassen, Paul Sladen, Jonathan Beck, and Christophe Fergeau for making this possible)

And whats more, SharePod is completely free! SharePod was designed from the start to be lightweight, quick and responsive, it has all (well hopefully most…!) of the features you need and none of the features you dont.”

You can find this at:  http://www.getsharepod.com/

Good luck Wink

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January 15, 2012
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@jayesstee

thanks for your response. if you would read my post carefully, you would see i already mentioned sharepod. it does not work unless you have itunes installed or use itunes hack (however, the hack installs quicktime, at least part of it, and apple mobile device support). therefore, sharepod is good for people who don’t like itunes interface, NOT for people who don’t want itunes/quicktime at all.

January 15, 2012
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You have to “jailbreak” the device to do what you are talking about. There are many places good and bad that one can do this. You just gotta figure if you can and want to do this option. S.A.

January 15, 2012
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sa2.4 said:

You have to “jailbreak” the device to do what you are talking about.

to use sharepod and itunes hack or to use sharepod and itunes, you do not need to jailbreak the device. however, some other methods will make you jailbreak your ipod. still then, i did not find a single method that uses jailbreak and can free ipod touch from itunes and quicktime completely. therefore, jailbreaking is not going to help.

January 16, 2012
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mukhi said:

@jayesstee

thanks for your response. if you would read my post carefully, you would see i already mentioned sharepod.

Sorry, I did read your post carefully when it was first posted  I saw SharePod a few days later and remembered your requirement, but not all the detail. Sorry about that, but at least it has got the post active.

At the risk of making you cross again, have you tried searching for 'iTunes replacement'?  I just did and top of the list was: “CopyTrans Manager”.  The link is:  http://www.copytrans.net/copytransmanager.php

The fifth result was: Here's Five Alternatives to iTunes 10″, link is:  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/29716/heres-five-alternatives-to-itunes-10-for-easily-managing-your-ipod/

CopyTrans Manager is top of this list and appears to be portable!  I know from another post that you love portable apps.

Hope there is something useful there.  If CopyTrans Manager works out, post back here, I might well also ditch the iTunes/QuickTime imposition.  Smile

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January 16, 2012
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jayesstee said:

Sorry about that, but at least it has got the post active.
At the risk of making you cross again, have you tried searching for ‘iTunes replacement’?  I just did and top of the list was: “CopyTrans Manager”.

take it easy jayesstee, i did not mean to be tough…Cool

copytrans manager does not do the job either for me because it may ask you to downgrade your firmware which sucks.

however, if you downgrade, it will allow you to transfer songs without itunes. apparently, you still need to depend on itunes for OS update. so…Laugh

January 17, 2012
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mukhi said:

you still need to depend on itunes for OS update. so…Laugh

Of course the OS!  I guess you answered your original question – NO, you need iTunes to keep the OS up-to-date.

I will stop making stupid suggestions, but stay subscribed to this post and if I have a non-stupid idea, I will post.  Embarassed

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January 20, 2012
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jayesstee said:

mukhi said:

you still need to depend on itunes for OS update. so…Laugh

Of course the OS!  I guess you answered your original question – NO, you need iTunes to keep the OS up-to-date.

I will stop making stupid suggestions, but stay subscribed to this post and if I have a non-stupid idea, I will post.  Embarassed

Not true. iOS includes OTA updating since iOS 5.0.0. Wink

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January 22, 2012
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Locutus said:

Not true. iOS includes OTA updating since iOS 5.0.0. Wink

yes, OTA update using wifi does not need itunes (and, apple is really good with that, i dislike my nokia n8 OTA update since it fails more often than not), but that does not solve my dilemmaSurprised…still i don't find a damn way to avoid itunes/quicktime, and at the same time, enjoy the latest firmware in my freaking ipod touch.Cry

January 23, 2012
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ok this might be what you want, in fact, I am 100% sure that this is not what you want, but in case you want it, here it is :)

 

http://itunes-portable.en.malavida.com/

 

basically itunes 7 in a portable version convenient for a flash drive!! 

I know you said you want to avoid iTunes, but i honestly do not think it is possible with the reqs. you have [ie. media manager + iOS updater]

 

Now as usual, i would caution you to use this. Do your research and use virustotal or something to make sure this is clean :)

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January 23, 2012
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Prema said:

http://itunes-portable.en.malavida.com/

 

Now as usual, i would caution you to use this. Do your research and use virustotal or something to make sure this is clean :)

good to know that itunes has a portable version available! i don't worry about virus that much as i know how to handle them (and, where to d/l SW from). never saw this site before, will be glad to try this SW if it is available from known good sites.

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