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September 18, 2009
9:01 AM
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Hi, I’m a relative tech newb. Thanks Ashraf for the reviews you give on Gotd. Very useful :smile:

Q: I’m selling my old computer, and buying a new one. I’d like to keep all my applications – ie. transfer them over to my new comp. and erase the HD of the old comp.

I don’t need to copy over the OS, the new comp. will have it’s own installed OS. I am interested
in just keeping my programs and transferring them to the new computer..

Any recommendations for a free (if poss. :)
program that will do this for me…

I’m surprised I don’t see too much mention of this on Google… there must be people buying new comps. all the time (selling the old one) and wanting to transfer the apps. over to the new one…. weird…. :???:

Thanks again Ash,

Best,

Peter.
p.s. simpler the better if poss :) (newb alert!)

September 18, 2009
2:09 PM
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Hmm… you say you don't need/want to copy over the OS otherwise I would recommend EASEUS Todo Backup.

To be honest off the top of my head I don't know. If I think of one I will be sure to let you know.

September 18, 2009
4:26 PM
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Thanks Ashraf.. I was thinking of the drive image/cloning route… but I did some googling and people say this is not recommended – to clone a disk on certain hardware (ie old pc) and try using this same disk image on the new hardware. I’m a newb, but they go on about different chipsets/ drivers/ motherboards etc.. yikes.

It appears that disk imaging is mostly for backups for your existing computer ??

Anyway I found a trial version of ‘softrescue pro’. 50 dollars yikes…

the trial lets you gather up all your apps ready to send over, but you can’t re-open them at the other end…

Laplink pcmover has REALLY mixed reviews.. gonna skip that one..

Hmmmm….

September 19, 2009
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Hmmm while I was praying at the mosque I was thinking about your problem (doh!) and I came up with two possible solutions:

  1. You can create an image of your current computer. On your new computer use Double Drive to create a backup of the drivers. Create a seperate partition than your main one on the new computer. Restore the image of your old computer to the new partition on your new computer. Pop in your Windows CD and repair MBR so you can load into the Windows you just restored onto your new partition. New the Double Driver backup to restore the drivers onto that partition. Restart your computer and go back to your main partition on your new computer. Go to Computer/My Computer and you should be able to access all the programs on that extra partition you restored the image to.
  2. Use App mover (shareware… limited to 10 moves in free version) to move the programs. I am not sure if App mover allows you to move from computer to computer or just computer -> external hard drive and computer -> internal hard drive. I suggest you hook up your two computers and use the free version of App mover to test it out not only to see if it will work but also to see how accurately it will move the files because some times the registration info is not carried over.

The first way is kind of hard and in theory (I don't know if it will have any devasting effects on your new computer so use at your own risk). I recommend you try the second method.

September 19, 2009
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BTW be sure to wipe your old computer (I suggest taking the time to do a safe erase then reinstall Windows) before selling it =).

September 19, 2009
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Thanks Ashraf for the time you took with this.. much appreciated!

I went to check out Appmover.. It seems that it might not work so well, going from comp. to comp.

“From the above you can see why problems will arise your goal is to move ‘MyEditor’ to another computer. Why won’t that work? Because some files related to ‘MyEditor’ are still on drive C:. For the same reasons you can’t move ‘MyEditor’ to a new hard disk and then physically swap that hard disk so it has a new letter assignment.”

I like your first method, but like you say, I don’t want to risk messing up my new computer.

I wonder what people do when they have a hundred or so giveawayoftheday programmes, many with no registration code, and then they buy a new computer?

I’m going to write to the people that write
Softrescue and see if they are interested in putting their programme on the site of the 24 hours (Gaotd).

It really seems like you need a specialised programme to do this transfer, if it is even possible at all.

Many people have a hundred or more programmes on their computer, like I said I’m surprised that I haven’t found a niche programme that will transfer them all, and that works 100%. It would be a real chore to sit and reinstall 150 programmes.

Google speak to me!

Thanks Ashraf !

Peter.

September 19, 2009
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You are welcome =).

Another thing you may want to do is buy an external hard drive then use App Mover to move the apps to it.

September 22, 2009
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The ability to move programs PROPERLY from one computer to another would be very popular. The problem is that many programs write information to the registry when first installed (where to find the program and it’s components, configuration information, registration / license / activation codes, etc.) Each program, perhaps each version, determines what and how the information is stored in the registry, and often changes from OS to OS. A program may configure itself differently for XP and Vista. With all these variables, it would be almost impossible for a third-party program to be able to know how every program does it. Likewise, an image of a program from the old computer would not be useful because you could not transfer the registry information.

To give you an idea of the quantity of information stored in the registry, at one time I checked a fresh install of XP and I recall there being about 50,000 entries in the registry, before adding programs.

Another “gotcha” is that some programs add auxiliary files the the Windows folders, and these would not be transferred because figuring out what files in the Windows folders go with which programs is also nearly impossible.

However, if the program does not write information to the registry (usually configuration info would be stored in an .INI file in the program folder) you can copy the folder to another computer and it may run just fine. Trial and error is the only way to find out. You’ll have to add the program shortcuts to your desktop and Start Menu manually.

NOTE: the only program I know of that attempts to move programs is PCMOVER. You can find user comments about it’s usefulness at http://download.cnet.com/PCmover/3000-2094_4-10603263.html

September 24, 2009
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I have used PC Mover to move over a hundred programs from my old computer (Windows XP Pro) to a new one with Vista Business. Subsequently I used it again to move everything from a corrupted Vista to a new larger hard drive with a fresh install of Vista. Virtually everything copied over and worked fine in both instances. One license allows you unlimited moves from the one computer to the other, so if something doesn't work at first you can undo and then redo with different options, and you can do part of the transfer at a time if you want.

We have gotten used to getting a lot of free software for all sorts of uses, making that the way we expect to obtain most software, but PC Mover for me was totally worth the expense. I had some software that was very challenging to set up the first time around, and it was great to be able to just start using it on my new computer as soon as I ran PC Mover. I like it enough that I bought a bundle of licenses at a discount (from Laplink) so that I will be prepared for the next move when it comes.

September 22, 2011
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Have you ever been to

http://www.pickmeapp.com/

 

Ande

September 22, 2011
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ande said:

Have you ever been to

http://www.pickmeapp.com/

 

Ande

Wow! This looks really cool! I actually have been wondering myself if there have been such program! I wonder if this works……

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