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March 15, 2010
5:38 PM
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LaughLaughLaugh Guday from New Zealand,

I,ve just discovered Incredimail   http://www.incredimail.com/eng…..plash.aspx   and it llooks brilliant. Ramesh, Incredimail is far more comprehensive than the scources you gave
me. Unforunately, I do not know whether its like Smileys Central, which puts heaps of spyware in XP. Both sites boast that they are free of nasties !!!!!

Please tell me how to test, or find out if Incredimail is free of nasties.

LaughLaughLaugh Thanks in advance Bill3

March 15, 2010
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CNET gives it 4 stars in an editor's review:  http://download.cnet.com/IncrediMail-Xe/3000-2367_4-10049814.html although they do say that it can be a resource hog.

The company's been around since 1999 and IPO'd on nasdaq in 2006. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IncrediMail_Ltd.

It appears to be legit, but like anything, be sure to download from a reputable source.

March 15, 2010
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LaughLaughLaugh Hi Karen,

wow, have I stuck lucky, Grand Master too, that was the most succinctly posted answer I think I have ever seen. Thank you very much. Basically, Cnet being the authority, give it a good review, and their credentials are very respectable.

I have always used Thunderbird V2, but I can install Incredimail along side it, and check it out.

I have a lot of correspondence in Thunderbird, so I cannot afford to have it corrupted, but I would like to jazz it up a bit with some emoticons. Perhaps you would be so kind as to offer me some more advice, as you are obviously knowledgeable upon this matter. This is what I have been advised so far by Ramesh, who was very helpful :

Smilie websites are dangerous, as for each smilie you download they give you a virus.

There are 3 safe ways:-

1 Download 91 Smilies from Yahoo. It gives you a cheatsheet of how to type out the Smilie.

2 Take it from Codex. It gives you a cheatsheet of how to type out the Smilie – it also gives good WordPress tips regarding Smilies. Our blogsite btw uses WordPress

3 Locutus our administrator in http://www.dottech.org taught me that if you type : followed by ) you get :) & if you type : followed by D you get :D

Problem is once you have done it, its done.

LaughLaughLaughBest regards Bill3, hope your weathers warmed up a bit over there.

March 15, 2010
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  1. Download and save the file to your hard disk.
  2. In Mozilla
    Thunderbird, open Add-ons from the Tools menu.
  3. Click the
    Install button, and locate/select the file you downloaded and click
    "OK".

Right click on this and click save as:

Save me! Don't single click!

Then follow the instructions above.  This is an addon for Thunderbird and the reason I am self-hosting it is because the version on AMO is not updated to 3.0.  All I did was change the number so Thunderbird thinks it works.  It might not work.  Here's the official site: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/749

Oh, the site that was :(
March 15, 2010
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Bill3 said:

LaughLaughLaugh Hi Karen,

wow, have I stuck lucky, Grand Master too, that was the most succinctly posted answer I think I have ever seen.


Suppressing a big smile of my own here, Bill3. How big a range are you looking for? Thunderbird has an add-on called "Smilie Inserter" (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/769) that will enable you to insert – an albeit limited – range of facial expressions in your emails. Personally, inserting grinning faces into my emails isn't my cup of tea, but it might be worth checking out if this is what you like to do …
Hi-diddly-ho, Ozzie must go … See you round, dotTechies!
March 15, 2010
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@Ozzie:  That addon works only to Thunderbird 1.5.  The one I link to is a mod of one that works up to version 2, edited to work in version 3.

Oh, the site that was :(
March 15, 2010
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Locutus said:

@Ozzie:  That addon works only to Thunderbird 1.5.  The one I link to is a mod of one that works up to version 2, edited to work in version 3.


 

Thanks Locutus!

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March 15, 2010
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  Bill3 said:

I have always used Thunderbird V2, but I can install Incredimail along side it, and check it out.

I have a lot of correspondence in Thunderbird, so I cannot afford to have it corrupted


Hi Bill3! Smile
 

Feels great to see you friend. Incredimail is definitely good & trustworthy. Many friends in real world as well have recommended it to me. I use only Outlook Express. My 2 reasons for having only Outlook Express was -

  1. Being baked into WinXp itself I thought made it safer
  2. Easier to manage emails by having one email client

My reasoning about "only one email client line of thought." could be wrong though. I do know other email clients offer better functionalities

Your query on "How to check nasties" – One additional way is to check if its digital signature is part of "User Controls Library". Digital Signatures being in Windows Explorer is no longer foolproof nowadays. Install Spyware Terminator 2.6.5.111. It has an excellent Digital Signature library. Stick to Spyware Terminator 2.6.5.111 for the present even though there are later versions.

 

RameshSmile

March 16, 2010
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Laugh Thanks everyone, nice to meet some handy guys and gals.

Laugh LOCUTUS                 Thanks, you tried to save me a lot of hassle, even though your comment wasn't that clear. I can't use your download link to the modified Mailtagger, because it wants to install into Firefox. Please could I have a link to just download the file, then I can use it for other builds. I though there was a emoticons addon for Thunderbird, but as with a lot of things, one needs to know what to google.

Laugh OZZIE           Thanks. Charm is for the ladies, seriously though she did make a very succinct post, and it is always wise to encourage excellence to promote good forums. Our dear old friend Ramesh will attest to this, he should have been a diplomat.

I do see your point about emoticons, and really I just wanted something to give a bit of life, and definition to emails. Incredimail is completely overboard, and I will probably uninstall it after I have tried it out. Something like mailtagger or those Ramesh suggested, look more my style.

Incredimail is great for girlfriends, but not for business. Also, I guess it will use up a lot of my data allowance from my ISP. I don't have unlimited like you do in the States.

LaughRAMESH         Hi old buddy, Grand Master too !!!!!. I appreciate hearing from you. Thanks for the advice. Where do you live, I notice everybody keeps this secret, but that makes it difficult to relate to people.

1 Re email client. I was advised back in 2005, by a super expert, never to use Outlook express or Internet Explorer, because it is used on mass by vunerable people, so hackers target it for nasties. Presently, I am aware of Thunderbird V2.0.0.23 being the only viable email client, V3 has many problems, so if you want the old version, email me direct, and I will send you an extract from one of my manuals, on how to get it.

2 Outlook Express being imbedded into XP does not make it safer, in fact just the opposite. Remember Sandboxie.

3 It is quite OK to have  more then one email client, but you can only have one as the default, which you set on installation.

4 Digital signatures, thanks I've put it in my manuals. I am however, working on a simple, foolproof, time saving method, to keep my operating system clean of nasties, and drastically reduce time spent on updating programs. I'll do the tests when I build my new computer, as it has 2 hard drives necessary for the system. I should complete this project about June 2010.

5 I suspect your original suggestion for emoticons, is probably going to be the most sensible for me.

Smile EVERYONE      while I've got your attention :

1 I do hope my email address is not available for everyone to see in my profile, if so please remove it, as only the administrators of the website should be able to see it.

2 Is it possible that one of you experts know of another simple, email client that is better than Thunderbird. Of course I can google this, but I have no knowledge of Pegasus for example, and running the tests is very time consuming, so perhaps someone you know has already done them.

Wink Best regards to everyone From Bill3.

 

March 16, 2010
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CoolCoolCool Hi Everyone again,

just having one of my lazy days, playing on my computer till 1 am. I downloaded Mailtagger 1.7, I got it through your link Locutus, but how do I tell if its the one

that works on V3, to future proof myself. Anyway, I tested it, and it gives me all I want.

1 Installs into Thunderbird v2.0.0.23 as an addon, so its easy to insert smilies.

2 Amazing amount of preinstalled good smilies.

3 Heaps more smilies availiable from http://www.kolobok.us/

4 Easy on resources.

Thanks everyone. Now I do not have all the problems of migrating to a new email client, as Incredimail. If only I had known to do a Thunderbird search for Mailtagger, instead of smilies, but that would have been inconceivable.

CoolCoolCool Thanks, and best regards Bill3. PS your site spell checker does not work, i'm using Tinyspell.

 

March 16, 2010
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I can't provide any more help.  I stopped using mail clients quite a while ago and I just use the webmail (i.e., gmail).  Since I have unlimited bandwidth, this is never an issue although if you don't then having to fire up the browser to read "old" email is obviously wasting the bandwidth.

I do use Outlook at work, but obviously have no need for smilies there.

I don't use lots of smileys, but when I feel the need I just get by with the text equivalent rather than the graphic.

March 16, 2010
11:22 PM
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Hi Bill3! Smile

Have you decided on Thunderbird or Pegasus as email client? I got your point about the weakness of Outlook Express relating from its being baked into the OS & therefore to look for a non-OS email client, at least for WinXp Pro 32 bit. Do let me know which one is better & why – Thunderbird or Pegasus & which version. All I know is Thunderbird & Firefox are sister apps. Interesting work you are doing on developing a better way to build systems. I am sure it would be a nice thing

RameshSmile

 

March 17, 2010
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@Bill3:
Right click on this and click save as:

Save me by right clicking and selecting save link! Don't single click!

In Mozilla Thunderbird, open Add-ons from the Tools menu.
Click the Install button, and locate/select the file you downloaded and click "OK".

Oh, the site that was :(
March 18, 2010
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CoolCoolCool Hi Everyone,

 

Cool KAREN Cool Thanks for that. Your environment is entirely different to mine, I only have 1 gb Data allowance here in New Zealand, which is quite adequate if used sparingly. Also, speed is a major advantage with email clients.

You would make a good technical writer. Just for fun, take a review, then edit it for repetition and clarity. It's amazing how people ramble.

Cool LOCUTUS Cool Thanks, got the file, just out of interest what did you do to the file to make it work. I used the file from the official site, which worked because I use Tbird v2.0.0.23

IMPORTANT  I do hope my email address is not available for everyone to see in my
profile, if so please remove it, as only the administrators of the
website should be able to see it.

Cool RAMESH Cool  Win Xp Pro 32 bit is the only OS I bother with, perhaps I might change over to Windows eight in Oct 2012, when MS have ironed out all the problems with changing over to a new kernel. Many people consider Microsoft as monopolistic, and exploitative, so adopt the policy of boycotting anything by them.  Classically, people should not have to pay for an upgrade from Vista to 7, because Vista was so seriously flawed, that many considered it deliberate, so MS effectively charged double for 7. Would you accept this from Sony, Ford, Gigabyte, your plumber, etc, obviously no, so why with Microsoft. I wrote this last bit for the Commerce Commission, very thought provoking.

T bird and Firefox are sister apps, but run independently. Firefox I definitely recommend, but T bird is run by smartarses, and all the indications are that they are going to wreck the project. Mr Smartarse is a viscous companion.

What are your parameters for an email client, eg Karen's are totally different from mine.

I cannot post the extracts from my manuals, that you need, on this site, as they are too big. You will need the T bird manual, or you will get the new version which is problematic, and I do not support.

Presently think I will stay with T bird, but use Incredimail when I want a fancy email, which I will transfer to T bird for sending.

Cool Best Regards Bill3. Cool             

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

March 18, 2010
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No the emails aren't made public (I just checked). Laugh

Also, I'm going to write an article on how to make a Mozilla extension think it works with the new version of their product.

Oh, the site that was :(
March 18, 2010
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Bill3 said:

You would make a good technical writer. Just for fun, take a review, then edit it for repetition and clarity. It's amazing how people ramble.


Thanks.  I'm not a technical writer by trade, but I have done some of it.  You're correct about people rambling.  But I'm not going to go through that effort.  And when Ashraf returns, his main blog posts are written very succinctly.
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