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July 10, 2010
4:33 PM
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Ok.. been wondering.. am I correct in thinking that i could up the performance of my laptop (or even my other machines) by creating a partition just for my OS (like reduce my current drive size down some just for the OS) and then making the other partition to run all my apps from and such..

 

Is this correct thinking?

 

The other thing then would be any know of a "how to" type tutorial in doing this? CUrrently i have DLd the EASUS Partition Master 6.0.1 and i am just not sure what would be my best route..

Currently i have win7 64bit home premium.. have quad core i7 with 500gb internal drive 6gb ram.. use an external 2TB drive for storing stuff and saving my back ups.. what would your recommendations be?

 

Thanks in advance..

Zug

July 10, 2010
5:11 PM
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Just an opinion, but isn't your system already fast enough? Those specs are way out of the charts!

July 10, 2010
5:29 PM
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@Zugshad:

I'm sorry to say running your apps on a different partition unfortunately will not improve performance… But it's an ideal scenario in case anything bad happens to your OS, all your files will be safe and sound. I always recommend that.

Example of the current schematics on my laptop drive:

C: (OS)

D: (Running Apps)

G: (Files)

* I would actually gain speed by running the apps on the same partition as the OS, but the difference is so minimal that I go for peace of mind over 'performance'.

July 10, 2010
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I have a question; what's the point of D drive Gioneo? 

 

Does it show the same files on say, another account I log into on my PC?

July 10, 2010
6:32 PM
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@Lascannon: I am not sure why Gioneo is doing it, but I know for someone that often reformats, having important files on another partition really helps.

July 11, 2010
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well.. wasn't really meaning up the performance per say as in increasing speed drastically.. iirc, the only thing that would really speed up some might be boot.. but then again, i use the chameleon monitor to help with delayed startup apps… has been really nice app so far..

 

agree.. that the other use was to protect system drive/have apps on other partition in case windows crapped out on me.. if the HDD crashed, just partitioning wouldnt help anyway.. just the backup.. was just wondering if it would be wise too do it.

 

if was.. i just want to make sure i didnt screw anything up,, why was hoping to find a "walktrhoguh" kinda.. specially if was using EASUS one..  i "think" i just need to select my drive in it.. and then shrink it having the unused space used to create the new partition.. but then how to move all my apps and such over.. do i just copy over / move over the x86 and normal program files over to the new drive? i have everything backed up on my external just in case.. just would really hat to go to that resort :(

 

Zug

July 11, 2010
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Have you tried disabling the Windows "flash" that comes up when booting up your system? It's this thing:

 

It decreases boot time by 4 millisecounds. Still, it's something right? BTW, what AV program do you use? Some AV programs makes your system boot longer than others… but I guess that depends like Ashraf said; every computer is different.

July 11, 2010
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I use avast… but have it set to be delayed on boot by 10secs.. so everything boots up and then it starts.. boot time isnt to bad.. think rounding about 1min or less..  just trying to optimize is all.. make the best of it and what not :D

July 12, 2010
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Ashraf said:

for someone that often reformats, having important files on another partition really helps.


 

Can you explain about the "often reformats" Is there an advantage to doing that? Did I not understand what you are saying

Why does having files on another partition help? Is it speed or the safety of the files, just in case the OS partition goes bad?

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July 12, 2010
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 It's mostly safety of the files. There's no gain in performance in this since the system has to "jump" to a different partition to get the files…

Having files on a different partition helps in the sense that if you have to re-install the OS, no need to worry about your files being moved or erased.

As for "the often reformat" query: The more you install software, the higher the risk of your system files
getting corrupted (regular maintenance prevents that but the risk is
still there).

In my case, I like to have a fresh install every 5-6 months (depending on how much I've been installing/uninstalling stuff). I do this with a backup of a fresh install with all the updates and "essential programs".

Makes the whole process much less of a hassle.

July 12, 2010
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Gioneo said:

 

As for "the often reformat" query: The more you install software, the higher the risk of your system files

getting corrupted (regular maintenance prevents that but the risk is

still there).

In my case, I like to have a fresh install every 5-6 months (depending on how much I've been installing/uninstalling stuff). I do this with a backup of a fresh install with all the updates and "essential programs".

Makes the whole process much less of a hassle.


 

Thanks Gio

As to the "install of SW, are you referring to home use? In a case of all the freebies Laugh?

 

And do you do a fresh install on your home PC or are you speaking a maybe a work/corporate environment?

EbonyCool

July 12, 2010
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@Ebony: Gioneo has covered your question very well but to give my 2 cents – safety is the reason.

July 12, 2010
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zugshad said:

if was.. i just want to make sure i didnt screw anything up,, why was hoping to find a "walktrhoguh" kinda.. specially if was using EASUS one..  i "think" i just need to select my drive in it.. and then shrink it having the unused space used to create the new partition.. but then how to move all my apps and such over.. do i just copy over / move over the x86 and normal program files over to the new drive? i have everything backed up on my external just in case.. just would really hat to go to that resort :(

 

Zug


You are right about how you basically go about using Easus (or Paragon's tools). Just shrink one partition and then create another partition in the empty space. Make sure you create a backup boot disk first. I think both of those software offer that option.

Unfortunately, you cannot just move over program files because the registry has entries pointing to where the programs are located. You really have to re-install the apps. Data files can be moved with no problems.

July 12, 2010
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 @Ebony:

Well mostly done on my work pc, Confused given that I work from home (kind of a second job). Besides trying all the different software I'm interested in, many times I also have to "emulate" a client's pc in order to troubleshoot a bug or a weird behaviour. Example if he's running Vista and I had XP previously loaded on mine, I'll switch it to Vista.

Therefore having only the OS on it's dedicated partition is a must for me.

*I do the same on my "personal" machines but I don't reformat them quite as often.

          As to the "install of SW, are you referring to home use? In a case of all the freebies Laugh?

Both. After successful trials, I can make informed recommendations to clients
( Thanks mostly to Dottech! ).

July 12, 2010
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I never fully understand partitions and doing this and that with Paragon or Easus… so  I never touch them at all. Sigh… Frown

July 12, 2010
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Ashraf said:

@Ebony: Gioneo has covered your question very well but to give my 2 cents – safety is the reason.


 

Thanks Ashraf, One can never be too safe.Smile Especially ME.LaughLaugh

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