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What's your opinion of using P2P?
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February 21, 2010
11:53 AM
Wheezer
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As I talked about in another thread, I need to be able to send and receive large (mostly videos) files to my sister in Australia.

In the other thread I asked about using FTP and got a couple good options from Ashraf and Karen.

To be honest tho, when I start looking at using FTP, the info and terminology goes right over my head. Hey, I'm old, it happens. Wink

So I kept looking for something easier that doesn't require me to need to know more tech-speak than I already know.

I ended up finding an article on P2P file sharing as a way to transfer large files between 2 computers. Spacifically a program/service/whatever called Binfer(binfer.com) looked like a good possibility. Maybe.

I've never used P2P and am slightly concerned about it's security and the safety of using file sharing  at all.

Would you use it? Would you recommend that a friend, or even your mother use P2P?

And if not,  if you had a large file to send to someone else, say a file that's 1GB in size, and you had a beginners understanding of computers, how would you send it.

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February 21, 2010
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Hi Wheezer. I'd suggest using something like Dropbox online file storage (www.dropbox.com) rather than P2P for getting a large file to someone. I use Dropbox as one of my file back-up options. However, I recently also used it for transferring large PDF files to an associate overseas. I think it has a 2GB storage limit, so it should be fine for your purposes. There are a number of online storage options available, and some with larger storage limits (check out Gizmo's recommendations at http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-online-backup-sites.htm). I like Dropbox because I can instantly copy and paste a file into my Dropbox folder and it is immediately stored online. In the case of you and your sister, you can both simply log on to the account and transfer files back and forth. I think this is a much safer and preferable option than P2P. As you say, you have no idea where that information might end up, and what people might do with it. This way is at least safe and secure (well, I guess as secure as file back-up sites can be). Hope this helps.

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February 21, 2010
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Ok, for some reason that link is working. But if you go to Gizmo's site (http://www.techsupportalert.com/) and key in “best free online backup sites” in the search box, you'll find the right link.

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February 21, 2010
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Here it is http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-online-backup-sites.htm

@ Ozzie, you left a ) on the end of it.

February 21, 2010
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@Ozzie

I'll second that! Dropbox is nice and simple but gets the job done. (plus you can get another 250mb free on top of the 2 gigs in your dropbox account)

February 21, 2010
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Dropbox is good.

Along those same lines, I think the file storage that comes with a free Windows Live account is 45GB.

There is also iCloud and GlideOS. Both of those are like OS’s in a browser. Once you log on, your browser window looks very similar to a Windows desktop and they have all sorts of apps you can run (basic desktop, photo editing, email, IM, etc). They both also have some free storage. I forget how much iCloud offers, but GlideOS gets you 30GB free. I’ve only played around with them briefly, but they are pretty neat. And both would be fairly easy for a novice computer user since they appear as a standard desktop in the browser.

February 21, 2010
7:45 PM
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I see nobody here likes Dropbox…  Laugh

Thank you Ozzie, Amnesia, and Jyo.

I went to Gizmo's site and read the page. Then used the link there to check out Dropbox. I see why you like it. One thing that I wasn't too thrilled to read tho is that the max file size you can upload is 300MG. True, you get 2GB total storage, but it has to be in 300MB chunks or smaller. Darn.

For the heck of it, I looked at SkyDrive too since it's on the top of Gizmo's list. I don't know why it's at the top, other than you get a total storage space of 25GB. The max file size for their free version is 50MB tho. That won't quite do it for video files. Oh well.

I think I'm gonna take a quick look at the other sites listed on Gizmo, but I'm not expecting to find anything better than Dropbox.

Thank you so much for your replies and the info on Gizmo's and Dropbox. SmileCool

There I was typing again when Karen posted her reply. Oops.

Thank you Karen. I'll be checking out iCloud and GlideOS too.

I chuckled when I read: “fairly easy for a novice computer user.” Novice computer user? The words I use to discribe my computer user abilities are much worse than that! Lol…

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February 21, 2010
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I have to agree Drop Box is a life saver. The only other service I used (pay) is Megaupload to send things to my family. You can make them private and it uploads right from your desktop then sends you the links for your family to download.

Unfortunately, Megaupload costs $$ but it is well worth it (IMHO) but Drop Box Rocks.

February 21, 2010
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Alos Peer to peer scares me, you have to open up access to your computer to other users.

Not something I would trust.

Vidimo Se!

February 21, 2010
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I was just reading thru some of the topics in the DropBox forum and came across a post from from someone that looks like they work for DropBox.

The username made me do a double-take: “Arash F.”

Almost, but not quite. LaughLaughLaugh

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February 21, 2010
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@ amnesia: Thanks!

@ Wheezer: I'll also keep my eye out for a storage/transfer site that allows for larger file transfers. In the meantime, good luck!

@ Karen: Definitely gonna check out GlideOS – sounds interesting. Thanks for the heads-up!

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February 22, 2010
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Took a look at GlideOS. Liked it so much that I signed up for an account. I didn't find the details concerning the file size that I can share with my sister, but it looks like the odds are good that it'll be enough.

It says I can “share” my files with up to six family members or friends.

I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with Glide.

Thank you very much Karen! So far this one looks like a winner. SmileCool

I'm off to bed, ya-all have a good night, or day depending on where you are.

PS: Anybody know why sometimes when I do the math problem so I can post a reply, it says I gave the wrong answer? When I tried to post this reply the first time the math problem was “6+6.” I answered “12” and it said I was wrong. ???

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February 22, 2010
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I've just been doing a little bit more online searching and found this link that might be helpful – http://www.friedbeef.com/8-free-ways-to-send-large-files-online/

Also, I saw this service that allows you to send files up to 2GB – http://www.sizablesend.com/ I don't know what they're like, but it might also be worth checking out.

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February 22, 2010
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Ozzie said:

@ Karen: Definitely gonna check out GlideOS – sounds interesting. Thanks for the heads-up!


GlideOS and iCloud are both very interesting. I have accounts on both that I’ve played around with a little bit. Just the concept of having all of your applications live in the cloud is pretty cool.

Even though iCloud doesn’t give as much storage (I think their free is 2 – 3 GB), it isn’t that expensive. They charge something like $40 for 100GB.

February 22, 2010
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Just got done checking out the links Ozzie provided and the iCloud thing.

Seems to be a common misleading practice among sites these days. They make a point of saying you can upload 1, 2, 3, 4, or more GB files. Then when you start reading the details or help pages or forums, you find out the truth. So far all of the sites I checked out today have limits ranging from 50mb to 500mb that can be downloaded at one time. If your file is larger than that, you have to break it into pieces to upload it all.

I was really liking the iCloud, it looks even nicer than GlideOS. But with a limit of 150mb per upload, it's not going to work for my needs. Darn it. Frown

I'm going to have to look deeper into GlideOS tonight too. I don't want to start an upload and find out an hour later that the file is too big for what they allow.

Unfortunately, Otengo is starting to sound better all the time…

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February 22, 2010
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@ Wheezer: Sorry about that. I didn't have the time to look into them thoroughly. And yes, very misleading on their part.

Another file storage option – and this won't work for Wheezer as the files will be too large, I imagine – is something I came across recently while looking at the Firefox add-ins. It's called Gspace  – https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1593

“This extension allows you to use your Gmail Space (7.1 GB and growing) for file storage. It acts as an online drive, so you can upload files from your hard drive and access them from every Internet capable system. The interface will make your Gmail account look like a FTP host. After the installation, you'll get an option called “Gspace” in your “Tools” menu, which opens the GSpace window. It's great for storing/sharing files with your friends. Also very good to backup photos and music files (as you can view/listen to them from Gspace).”

I opened another Gmail account specifically so I could use it with this add-on. I find it handy as I can back-up files to this account. It might seem like overkill to have this and Dropbox, but I want the peace of mind in knowing that if anything happened to the Dropbox site, then I can still access my stored files.

With Gspace, bear in mind that it is unwise to try and transfer heaps of files in the one hit. My other half – who was extremely excited by this find and proceeded to upload every file imaginable to a Gmail account – was locked out of the account for 24 hours because Gmail recorded it as suspicious activity.But otherwise it seems to work fine. Might be worth a look for those folks looking for different file storage options.

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February 22, 2010
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Don't be sorriy Ozzie, I appreciate you and karen both taking the time to whittle the mile long list of sites google comes up with down to ones that are actually the kind of thing I'm looking for.

This search is getting frustrating tho. I still think that there's a site, program, or way to send the large files I need to be able to send and receive. I just have to keep looking.

And by the way, for anybody that needs to send large files, I've been using a site called “Otengo.” They allow sending files up to 2GB in one email, whether that's one large file or a bunch of smaller files.

The not so good thing is that they are slow uploads and downloads. And, if you ever reinstall your OS or get a new computer, when you sign into your account the first time, they wipe your account clean and you start from scratch. So if you use their service don't think your files will be safely stored in your account.

Otengo is currently in Beta (and has been for over a year) and they're giving away free life time access to anyone that signs up with them before they end the Beta. They say that they will be charging for new accounts after Beta.

Their site is at otengo.com.

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February 22, 2010
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Hi Wheezer! Smile

3 other concerns would impact upon whether you prefer P2P or FTP or SCP:-

1) If you want only your sister to see the file then FTP.

2) If you don't mind others seeing it then P2P

3) If you want only your sister to see it & also you want it to be more secure than FTP then use SCP. You'd notice Karen mentioned that SCP is even more secure than FTP in your other thread

RameshSmile

February 22, 2010
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Hi Wheezer!

Perhaps you've not read my post or the link I sent you in your other thread. It says 4 great file sharing tools, in the other thread. Nor have you responded to me; so I do not know if it helped you or not.

At this stage of discussion “size of video file” looks to be a dampener. Therefore I'll resend you that link & copy paste selected portions of that document for your reference.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/4-ridiculously-simple-file-sharing-sites/

Zapr (Windows XP only) . 

Zapr is, in essence, a small Web-server that sits in your system tray. Instead of leaving your entire machine open, you select what files are to be served, and can password-protect them as you see fit. No other uploading is required as the files are served directly from your PC. This means no file-size or bandwidth limits. Of course, this also means that for your friends to get at the files, you must leave your PC on with the Zapr client running. As long as that’s not an issue for you, then Zapr is the fastest and easiest internet file-sharing solution I’ve seen for Windows users.

FileAI

FileAI works much like Zapr, but consists of a Java-based in-browser client. Any platform that supports Java should work with FileAI. There is no size or bandwidth limit, much like with Zapr, because the files are again served directly from your PC.

File Dropper

File Dropper claims to be the fastest file-sharing site, and it certainly is fast. It can’t be much simpler. Ideal for sharing large video files. Upload a file of up to 5GB in size and receive a download link to pass to your friends. Uploads start immediately upon choosing the file. The site will try and up-sell you on its new premium services, but most of us will find the quick and signup-free basic service to be sufficient.

File Shaker

At first glance, File Shaker looks a lot like File Dropper, just a bit more colorful. File Shaker offers the same quick, login-free, basic upload service, with the maximum file-size bumped-up to a whoppin’ 10GB. Upload time for the same ZIP file was about equal to File Dropper.

For a dead-simple 10GB upload, you can’t beat the price, although given File Dropper’s push for premium accounts, I would not be personally surprised if File Shaker drifted towards the same business-model.

I hope this helps

RameshSmile

February 23, 2010
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Many thanks to Wheezer and the others who have posted here. I’ve been struggling with several friends who are even less technically adept than I, who are often still associated with “quaint” email situations, and with whom I have a hard time sharing any but the most minimally sized files. I’ve downloaded Otengo, and for the moment, it looks as though it will do the job in a pinch, but I look forward to experimenting with several others of the options described above.

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