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April 17, 2010
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@Karen: True dat. I'm just to chicken to start partitioning and too broke to have another drive installed, assuming there's space for another drive.

But for those without my issues, you brought up a good point.

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April 17, 2010
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Partitioning doesn't have to be scary. Just defrag first, then do an image backup. Then use Paragon or Easeus and make the primary partition just big enough to fit what is already on it. Then start transferring data files to the new partition. Although depending on the size of the drive and how much stuff you have on it, you may have to iterate through this a few times before all the data files are on a second partition.

April 18, 2010
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I know partitioning is easy. I've even explained how to do it to a couple friends who were then able to partition their computers without any problems.

But for some reason (old & stupid probably) when it comes to my computer, I just can't get myself to push the start button. I guess it's because of how many times in the past I'd do something that looked easy, only to end up having reinstalling the OS. I don't want to have to do that again yet. I don't have things like bookmarks and FF settings backed up either so even with the disc image thing that widows 7 came with, it'd be a pain to start over again.

See the kind of things you've got to look forward to when you get old too? Wink

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April 19, 2010
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Locutus said:


You'd need to tell each application to install itself to the external drive.  Otherwise, the software won't work.

Here my situation

 

I have installed a bunch of programs on my internal HD, however I am doing a weekly backup to my external HD.

1. Do I need to move the SW folder for each program or is the weekly B/U sufficient?

2. If I do need to move it over, what is the easiest way, one folder at a time or is there a way to move multiples,

3. If I do move the folders, will I confuse the registry?

4. In case I had a corruption on just one program, can I go to the image scan and restore just one program?

OR

Should I just leave well enough alone for now, space is not an issue at this point but at the rate I am going, it could become an issue.

I was also thinking I could move seldom used programs to the external drive.

Ebony Cool

April 19, 2010
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@ebony – Installed programs are different than data. 

Copying (whether manually or using a file backup program) is sufficient for data files-that is, music, videos, photos, documents, etc.  Pretty much anything that resides under c:/users/ebony (win7) or if I remember correctly under c:/Documents and Settings/users/ebony (winxp).

For installed programs, though, just copying/moving the installed directory (something like c:/program files/programx/* to the external drive isn't really sufficient backup because Windows programs rely on registry entries to be able to run.  So if you lost the directory on the internal drive, you probably couldn't just copy the directory back into place from the external drive and have everything work.  What you really need to do is an image backup which copies everything (although if you back up "data" files separately most image backup programs can be told to ignore certain directories) into one big compressed file and put that file on your external drive.  Then if something happens to your internal drive, you can restore from the image and have all of your programs back.

Ashraf has a review of several free image backup programs if you search dotTech.

April 19, 2010
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One good way to get back more space is to remove some of your restore points. The basic procedure is to right-click on your OS drive and select Properties. In the properties popup, on the General tab, there should be a button for Disk Cleanup. Disk Cleanup will open another popup. Click on the More Options tab and there is a section for System Restore. Click the Cleanup button in this section. You will get a confirmation window. Click Delete. Then click OK. You'll get another confirmation popup, click Delete Files to confirm.

I am often able to free up almost 10g if I haven't done this in a while and I've been installing/uninstalling a lot of software (Revo automatically creates restore points).

Of course, only do this if your system is stable and you're fairly confident you won't need those restore points.

April 19, 2010
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I recently started to run "low" on hard disk space (Windows 7 calls anything below 10% "low", so I had 18GB left).  I just ran CCleaner and deleted some free music I got from the SXSW torrents.  I never even opened the files.

Oh, the site that was :(
April 19, 2010
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@Karen

As per usual, you are on it. I did do some clean up following your instructions.

Good advice and instructions. Smile

EbonyCool

April 20, 2010
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I never thought I would create so much discussion when I started this topic about a week ago as to where to put all the software, but I guess we are all glutons for software and it's got to take up space somewhere. I notice much reference has been made to storage in external drives. Here's a question for the experts. (I would save myself so much trouble if I would read the directions first, but NO-O-O-O, I just plunge in). I didn't realize until after I had installed a fair amount of data into my new WD external drive, that I should have selected NTFS format to match that of drive C on my computer. The default on my external drive was FATS32 and I didn't change it at installation. Is this a big deal?I think it's working OK, but I wouldn't know what to recognize if it wasn't. If I should change to NTFS format, can I do it without screwing up anything (I hear all this talk about partitions here lately), or should I just leave well enough alone?

Thanx for putting up with El Stupido.

April 20, 2010
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Neil Berman said:

Thanx for putting up with El Stupido.


 

Hey, don't talk about me like that when I'm right here. Wink

Really Neil, we're all a little -knowledge short- in one area or another. Thats where this forum shines tho. As you read thru threads you'll find that everyboy asks for a hand sometimes. Somebody almost always knows how to help, and does.

There's a good group of folks here. Kinda like the Mayberry of tech forums.

(For those not in the US and who never heard of Mayberry before, it was the town in The Andy Griffith Show back in the 1960s. It was about a very small town sheriff and the way of life in the friendly little town, where everybody helped everybody. The show has been in re-runs on cable and satellite TV ever since.)

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@Neil:  Unless your files are over 4GB it won't make much of a difference.  Plus, now it'll work on Macs too!  Macs don't support NTFS like PCs don't support HFS+.

Oh, the site that was :(
April 20, 2010
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Wheezer said: ………..

There's a good group of folks here. Kinda like the Mayberry of tech forums.


 

OK Wheezer…….intersting analogy……..

So……….well, it's a given that Ashraf would be the Andy character……..& (with her permission 1st, of course……..maybe the ever-kindly & helpful Aunt Bea could be…….Karen) Wink……….but, like, who…… would be….. Barney????????

We already have an overabundance of the gooey, goody-goody, goofball, GOLLLLLEEEE  Gomers [self-disclosure: uh, that would include ...yours truly]

Life is just a phase you're going through…you'll get over it.
April 20, 2010
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yourpalal said:

……….but, like, who…… would be….. Barney????????
 


 

That's one of those questions that aren't safe to think about answering. So I won't.

It is an interesting question tho.

Not sure if I'd give the Aunt Bea role to Karen. Aunt Bea always seemed a little "off" or slow, to me anyway. Karen doesn't come across that way at all.

Actually, I think I'd have trouble assigning character rolls for most of the people in Mayberry to people on dotTech. Altho your assessment of the "Andy" roll and the large number of us that would fit the "Gomers" roll at one point or another is pretty much dead on. Smile

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April 20, 2010
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Wheezer said: ………..

Not sure if I'd give the Aunt Bea role to Karen. Aunt Bea always seemed a little "off" or slow, to me anyway. Karen doesn't come across that way at all.

================


 I gottcha!

And it's all good…..

That's why I added: "……..& (with her permission 1st, of course……..maybe the ever-kindly & helpful Aunt Bea could be…….Karen)"

'Cause I was only thinkin' of the POSITIVES of her character!! Wink

 In fact,…….. I can almost see ol' Aunt Bea justa grinnin' right now!! Laugh

……….Dang…….come ta think about it……besides Opie……ain't many of 'em left, are there?? Frown

Life is just a phase you're going through…you'll get over it.
April 21, 2010
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I have never seen The Andy Griffith Show. As far as I know, Barney is a bright purple really annoying dinosaur.

April 21, 2010
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Locutus said:

@Neil:  Unless your files are over 4GB it won't make much of a difference.  Plus, now it'll work on Macs too!  Macs don't support NTFS like PCs don't support HFS+.


Video files can easily be over 4G though.

April 21, 2010
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@Neil

"I never thought I would create so much discussion when I started this topic about a week ago as to where to put all the software"

That is the great thing about this forum, you have a variety of experts and knowledgeable techie folks addressing your problem.

Kinda like having a team of doctors helping with an ailment, instead of one doctor just guessing uh go take this test or here is a script and come back in a week and give me more money, even though I have no clue what is wrong with you, if ANYTHING.Confused

LaughLaughLaughLaugh

EbonyCool

 

 

April 21, 2010
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@Karen:

I love you

You love me

we're a happy family

with a great big hug and a kiss from me to you

won't you say you love me too

Oh, the site that was :(
April 21, 2010
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Oh, I'm looking forward to seeing Karen's reply to that post Locutus. Laugh

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April 21, 2010
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I'm beginning to regret it.  Ahh, whatever.

Oh, the site that was :(
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