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April 21, 2010
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yourpalal
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karen said:

I have never seen The Andy Griffith Show. As far as I know, Barney is a bright purple really annoying dinosaur.


 

Me sorry Frown I just assumed that everyone would know the show.

Oh, how many times has someone told me: "….never assume………."

So……..even tho my intentions were all good, I will withdraw my analogy, & will never again try to link someone here with a movie/TV etc. character.      ……….///……..assumin' that I remember……….Wink

Now……..what's up with that……

……..purple really annoying dinosaur????

Life is just a phase you're going through…you'll get over it.
April 22, 2010
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Sorry to be a party pooper, but I think we've gotten a little off track here (although a little levity doesn't hurt). It was suggested that the FATS32 format shouldn't be  a problem as long as the file size is not more than 4GB. And Karen reminds us that videos can easily exceed 4GB. That being said, can my external drive be converted to NTFS format without screwing anything up or am I better off just not letting videos get to be more than 4GB? Can you convert in mid-stream or would I have to dump all the data on drive E into ie, a flash drive or onto data disks, do the conversion, and then reload the data?

Barney thanks you for your thoughts,   Smile,      Neil

April 22, 2010
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Have a read through this, http://www.microsoft.com/windo…../ntfs.mspx

If you choose the first method, you need to make a backup. If you choose the second method, you don't need to make a backup, but it wouldn't hurt.

April 22, 2010
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karen said:

A better choice than to install the software on a separate drive, is to move all your data (whether video, music, photos, docs, downloaded installers, etc) to the external drive and leave your OS drive with the OS and all other programs.


 

best said!!!!

it will definitely free up the computer.

April 22, 2010
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Locutus said:

@Karen:

I love you

You love me

we're a happy family

with a great big hug and a kiss from me to you

won't you say you love me too


 

Apparently there's some kinky things going on at dotTech that I don't know about…as an Admin don't you think I should be involved Laugh

April 23, 2010
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karen said:

Locutus said:

@Karen:

I love you

You love me

we're a happy family

with a great big hug and a kiss from me to you

won't you say you love me too


 
Apparently there's some kinky things going on at dotTech that I don't know about…as an Admin don't you think I should be involved Laugh

 What "kinky things going on at dotTech" do you want to be involved in?

 Is that only for Admins?? Wink

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April 23, 2010
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Neil Berman said: ……Sorry to be a party pooper, but I think we've gotten a little off track here (although a little levity doesn't hurt).


 

Hey Neil Berman:

Well,….. if you browse through most topics you'll find that there is indeed a widely varied amount of serious technical advice, along with personal anecdotes, helpful tips, amusing banter, & just some plain ol' fun!!

One thing you will rarely find here--unlike most forums I've viewed--is any personal attacks or name-calling, or other forms of negativity. If you glance at the emoticons, you'll see a broad range available, which is somewhat of a metaphor for the rich & interesting diversity here.

As they say: "It's all good"! Laugh

Life is just a phase you're going through…you'll get over it.
April 23, 2010
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Hi Al

"It's all good"!

Sho ya rightWink

I find this site very refreshing. It is nice to break up the techie dribble with a little humor and fun.

But we find our way back home.Laugh

EbonyCool

April 23, 2010
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ebony said:

Hi Al

"It's all good"!

Sho ya rightWink

I find this site very refreshing. It is nice to break up the techie dribble with a little humor and fun.

But we find our way back home.Laugh

EbonyCool


 

Hey Ebony (Ms. Geekster, extraordinaire) !

Two words: Spot on !

Al

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April 23, 2010
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It dawned on me that maybe I should define this word from my previuos post, so as to minimize conjecture: extraordinaire – extraordinary in a particular capacity; as in "a self-starter extraordinaire"

extraordinary – beyond what is ordinary or usual; highly unusual or exceptional or remarkable

It's all good! Wink

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amnesia said:

Have a read through this, http://www.microsoft.com/windo…../ntfs.mspx

If you choose the first method, you need to make a backup. If you choose the second method, you don't need to make a backup, but it wouldn't hurt.


 

drtank said:

karen said:

A better choice than to install the software on a separate drive, is to move all your data (whether video, music, photos, docs, downloaded installers, etc) to the external drive and leave your OS drive with the OS and all other programs.


 
best said!!!!

it will definitely free up the computer.


 
May 5, 2010
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On April 22, 2010, Amnesia said:

Have a read through this, http://www.microsoft.com/windo…../ntfs.mspx

If you choose the first method, you need to make a backup. If you choose the second method, you don't need to make a backup, but it wouldn't hurt.

Here is my dilema; (understand I am not that tech-savey); it might be obvious to most, but not to me; Where do I back-up to? My External hard drive (the one I want to reformat to NTFS) has lots or free space (465GB), but has files totalling 9.52 GB . My "C" drive has only 4.62GB available. So I can't transfer everything back to the C drive. I'm guessing I can copy the material on the E drive to multiple CDs or DVDs? Then can I reload them to the E drive after it is reformatted? Or can I transfer, let's say 4GB onto C drive and the remaining data to cds or dvds.

Instead of doing a full IMAGE backup from Drive E, might it be safer to back-up blocks of pictures (Most of my E drive is composed of photos) and then restore them as files?

Since DVDs hold more data, is it simpler to use DVDs (and if so, do I use +R, +RW, -R or -RW, or does it make any difference?) Any caviats I should be aware of when doing back-ups?  Sorry to sound so dumb, but I get into trouble easily.

        I appreciate all suggestions.          Neil

May 5, 2010
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@Neil:

If you're doing manual backups, then you can just copy and paste them to whereever they fit:  4GB to C:, the rest to CDs (or DVDs) (or CD-RWs or DVD-RWs) (or any variation with +s) or whatever you have.  I recommend this method:

Microsoft said:

Windows
XP converts your external drive to NTFS. When the conversion is done,
the window automatically closes. Your drive is ready for your backups.

Convert a backup drive to NTFS

If you have already copied
files to your external hard drive, and you don't want to delete them,
you can convert your hard drive to NTFS.

To convert an external
drive to NTFS

1. Log
on to your computer as an administrator.
2. Click
Start, right-click My Computer.

Start menu with My Computer selected

3. In the My Computer
window, make a note of the drive letter and label assigned to your
external drive. Usually, the drive letter will be E or F. The drive
letter will not be C (that's the hard drive inside your computer). The
label is the word between the drive picture and the drive letter. Some
drives may not have a label.

My Computer window with drive label and drive letter highlighted

4. Click
Start, click Run, and then type convert drive_letter: /fs:ntfs

For
example, if your external drive is drive E, you would type convert
E: /fs:ntfs

Then, click OK.

Run dialog box with convert command line entered and OK selected

5. A
command window appears. Type the label for your external drive, and then
press ENTER. If your drive does not have a label, just press ENTER.

Convert.exe command window

6. If
a message warns you that the volume is in use by another process, close
any other open windows. Then, press Y and then ENTER.

Convert.exe command window with warning message and Y entered in<br />
command line

 

This way, you don't even need (I stress need because you still should when doing this type of thing) to make backups.

 

So yeah, any data anywhere is fine, as long as you have a copy of it.  It might also be helpful to keep a text document that lists everything's copy's location. (IE, E:Photos is on DVD 1, E:Documents is on C:Documents and SettingsNeilDesktopExternal DriveDocuments, etc)

Oh, the site that was :(
May 5, 2010
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Neil Berman said:

On April 22, 2010, Amnesia said:

Have a read through this,  http://www.microsoft.com/windo…../ntfs.mspx

If you choose the first method, you need to make a backup. If you choose the second method, you don't need to make a backup, but it wouldn't hurt.

Here is my dilema; (understand I am not that tech-savey); it might be obvious to most, but not to me; Where do I back-up to? My External hard drive (the one I want to reformat to NTFS) has lots or free space (465GB), but has files totalling 9.52 GB . My "C" drive has only 4.62GB available. So I can't transfer everything back to the C drive. I'm guessing I can copy the material on the E drive to multiple CDs or DVDs? Then can I reload them to the E drive after it is reformatted? Or can I transfer, let's say 4GB onto C drive and the remaining data to cds or dvds.

Instead of doing a full IMAGE backup from Drive E, might it be safer to back-up blocks of pictures (Most of my E drive is composed of photos) and then restore them as files?

Since DVDs hold more data, is it simpler to use DVDs (and if so, do I use +R, +RW, -R or -RW, or does it make any difference?) Any caviats I should be aware of when doing back-ups?  Sorry to sound so dumb, but I get into trouble easily.

        I appreciate all suggestions.          Neil


 
 Hi Neil,

Have you got a few dollars sitting around? Why don't you go buy a 16GB USB and put all of your files in there?

If you can't do that, try de-fragging, and junk cleaning, the Winutilities Pro that ashraf helps us get free really helps with that task.

It sounds obvious, but could you try uninstalling whatever programs that you have that you don't use? Some games for example? Crysis, which I have, saves games but rarely deletes your save files, I had 3GB of crysis game saves.

 

If you decide to Back up to DVD's (and I would say use DVD's, you will need less) then compress the files, until they are about 8GB in size, total, then you will fit them onto 1 DVD.

As for the format, Use a +R or +RW, they are re-writable, so you don't need to get a new one each time.

I hope that helps, and check out ashraf's list of image backup software

 

Edit: Locutus, you damn ninja :p

May 5, 2010
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sean said:

Edit: Locutus, you damn ninja :p


 

Only DVD9s are 8GB.  Regular DVDs (and regular DVD burners) are 4GB… (correct me if I'm wrong!)

Also, DVD Rs are not rewritable.  However, DVD-RWs are.  So you want anything that has an RW.

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May 5, 2010
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Whether you use +RW or -RW depends on your DVD drive. Some are only compatible with one or the other. It is probably labeled on the front of the drive.

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Most DVD drives are compatible with both nowadays, though.

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Thanks to all of you. I should be able to solve my problem using one or more  of your solutions (I just have to decide which one I'm less likely to screw up.

Thanks again,     Neil

May 5, 2010
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You can set Revo Uninstaller to not create restore points when uninstalling (not recommended though).

@Neil Berman: Hope we solved your problem Smile!

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You can also delete all but your most recent restore point to free up space on your C drive.

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