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WinXp 64 and Nero 9
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November 15, 2009
1:39 PM
black raven
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Does anyone know where I can buy a genuine copy of WinXp 64? I looked online but everyone wants silly money i.e. $160 upwards.Tried microsoft themselves and if they had a copy left I would have been able to buy it for £16.82 (Don't ask about weird price ,I can't figure it out either Wink ) Also looking for a gen copy of Nero 9.Any help or pointers would be appreciated.

November 15, 2009
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Well I can say one thing for sure:  that crazy euro amount just means $25, so they must be using American money as the basis for the price.

Oh, the site that was :(
November 15, 2009
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no m8 it's uk pounds and i was quoted that price over the phone from microsoft uk call center.Was all set to pay them the next day when I had the money,phoned them back only to be told “sorry no copies left in stock”The 160 us dollar price was searching amazon and that.Not paying that price if microsoft was gonna sell me for a whole lot less.Still looking for a copy though so if you hear anyone selling or even better giving awayLaugh please let me know.Or anyone else hears anything. Thanks all for any help

November 15, 2009
4:39 PM
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May I ask why you need WinXP x64? Just to warn you, I hear WinXP x64 is horrible because it lacks support for just about… everything.

Also I can't help you out with a Nero 9 key but I can say you may want to check out Ashampoo Burning Studio 2010 (it is free).

November 15, 2009
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Hello again Ashraf.I have already bought ashampoo burning studio v9 m8,but I seem to prefer nero at least versions 6 and 8 Smile As for Xp 64 I just want to use it to go with my 64 bit h/w until I'm ready to kick over to Linux permanently…………….which is another reason I'm not prepared to pay 160+ US dollars for a copy off amazon etc.Thanks for your help anyway m8 and keep up the good work you do here and on G.A.O.T.D.

November 15, 2009
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I see. Well I don't see you getting any significant performance improvements with 64-bit over 32-bit even if you have a 64-bit processor (I run 32-bit on a 64-bit processor). However if you still want 64-bit, why not give Windows 7 a try? If you are going to move over to Linux soon anyway, just run Windows 7 until the trial runs out (you can expand the trial to 90 days).

November 16, 2009
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Nice suggestion Ashraf but as weird as this sounds I know xp and am happy using it so makes sense while getting experience of 64bit systems that I just upgrade to Xp 64.But thanks anyway my friendSmile

November 16, 2009
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You are very welcome.

November 18, 2009
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If you hear of anywhere I can buy Xp 64 or Nero 9 cheap please keep me in mind please m8 and thanks for all the advice and help.Keep up the good workLaugh

November 18, 2009
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Sure.

I suggest subscribing to this post so you will know if someone posts about an offer of XP x64 here.

November 18, 2009
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have subscribed now m8 thanks a lotLaugh

February 7, 2010
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Still no further forward obtaining genuine copies of WinXp 64 and Nero 9 for as little money as possible :-( surely someone can help any pointers,help or offers would be greatly appreciated.Thx in advance InshAllah ,Love and Light and Peace Out

February 7, 2010
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Here's a link to Nero 9 Lite: http://www.nero.com/eng/downlo…..9-free.php

Is this what you're after?

Ok, I just saw that this was a very stripped-down version of Nero 9. But might be worth a look nonetheless. Personally I think Nero is the king of bloatware, but each to his or her own.

Anyway, this was all I could find for free. Unless you want to use earlier full versions instead for free. Plenty of those about.

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February 7, 2010
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Ashraf I am a pro 32 bit Windows person & became even more so after reading an excellent article in Lifehacker which explained 32 bit versus 64 bit OS in simple terms. I guess user choice of OS version depends upon passion, need & logic.

64 bit is technically more powerful than 32bit but does not offer quantum tech benefit because it is hemmed in by licencing issues which put a cap upon what a user with 64 bit is allowed to enjoy with Windows in terms of tech aspects.

Mac & Linux place lesser tech caps on 64 bit because of lesser hemming in by licensing issues.
I am truncating & sharing my learning across 3 successive posts.
1) The first post is a gist of why I prefer 32bit
2) The second is a gist of 32bit
3) The third is a gist of 64bit

I hope they are helpful before dottech bloggers purchase of OS & hardware:smile:

Ramesh

February 7, 2010
6:02 AM
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I still prefer 32 bit Windows OS over 64 bit because most apps, especially important ones like antivirus & kernel level apps run well on 32 bit. That being the case why should I go for 64 bit just because it offers better kernel protection or more memory per process or allows me to use a larger capacity video card? Why should I spend more on a 64 bit OS or on extra GB of hard disk space so that a 64 bit OS can run when I know fully well that more apps can run on 32 bit than on 64 bit? Besides I am not yet ready to kiss goodbye to 16 bit apps just because I’ve installed a 64 bit OS? After all I’ve installed an OS to run more apps; not less! 32 bit has larger mkt share & is well proven practically across a larger user base. 64 bit makes theoretical claims, has lower mkt share & runs fewer apps on Windows platform:smile:

Ramesh

February 7, 2010
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32 bit System
1. 32 bit permits only a maximum of 4 GB of virtual memory per process. Out of this 4 GB of virtual memory per process only 2 GB of virtual memory per process is allowed to the user & the remaining 2 GB is allowed to be used only by the system but not by the user.
2. If the user uses a large video card e.g.1 GB or more thinking that he can enjoy quicker graphics he will be shocked to learn that this I GB video card memory will come out of the overall quota of 4 GB Virtual Memory. If the user opted for a 2 GB video card the user would get screwed even more. Likewise if the user opted for a large motherboard BIOS he would get screwed just like the example of the video card. Both these i.e. BIOS & video card dip into the same 4 GB pool of Virtual Memory per app.
3. Theoretically modern CPU support (PAE) because of which 32 bit users can enjoy 64 GB memory & not just 4 GB. In practical terms even this is not possible due to 2 reasons. Firstly most apps do not support PAE. Secondly Windows licensing restricts memory to just 4 GB per app for home versions of Windows OS. This cruel act is committed in order to ensure driver compatibility

Ramesh

February 7, 2010
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64 bit System
1. Technically A 64-bit machine can access 17.2 BILLION GB of system memory if licensing permits it. Home version of OS allows only 16 GB Virtual Memory per process & Professional or Ultimate version of Windows OS only allows a max of 192 GB per process
2. In a 64 bit Windows, instead of a 2 GB limit (for the user), each application has access to 8 TB of virtual memory without any special API, a huge factor when you consider applications like video editing or virtual machines that may need to use enormous amounts of RAM
3. On Windows, the 64-bit versions also come with a technology to prevent hijacking the kernel which is a very good protection against rootkit attacks & Trojans
4. 64-bit OS also supports hardware-enabled data execution protection
5. 64-bit OS also ensures that all its drivers are digitally signed 64-bit device drivers
6. If you use 64-bit OS you won’t be able to use 16-bit apps any more
7. 32-bit device drivers and low-level system applications like Antivirus, shell extensions that plug into Windows, and some media applications simply won’t work without a 64-bit equivalent
8. Theoretically most 32-bit apps will continue to work on 64-bit Windows, which includes a compatibility layer called WoW64, which actually switches the processor back and forth between 32-bit and 64-bit modes depending on which thread needs to execute—making 32-bit software run smoothly even in the 64-bit environment
9. In practice you should check up beforehand or look for a 64-bit version
10. 64-bit processes will take a little extra memory. Its memory pointers are a little bigger in order to address the larger amount of RAM. But it is not double in size
11. A 64-bit Windows OS needs a few extra GB of drive space since it has a compatibility layer in place
12. If you need a large video card you may find it wiser to install a 64 bit OS in Windows

Ramesh

February 7, 2010
6:31 AM
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I agree Mr. Ramesh,many and the very best of programs costing a lot are not supported on 64 bit platform.Even when officially stated it works,many 64 bit compatible programs do not work fully.64 bit is bundled only by genuine preinstalled Windows.Heavy and only gamers only are better at 64 bit.Even then one should use Win-7,latest since many security holes are covered by new release+.NET 3.5 SP1 etc. needed by today's applications,Xp has max. 1.1 SP1 or 2

February 7, 2010
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Ozzie said:

Here's a link to Nero 9 Lite: http://www.nero.com/eng/downlo…..9-free.php

Is this what you're after?

Ok, I just saw that this was a very stripped-down version of Nero 9. But might be worth a look nonetheless. Personally I think Nero is the king of bloatware, but each to his or her own.

Anyway, this was all I could find for free. Unless you want to use earlier full versions instead for free. Plenty of those about.

I cant agree more Ozzie,Nero is most famous,but a bloatware.What it is unable to version 9 you are talking about or in hours,Ashampoo 2010 does with perfect ease.If one tests burning soft other than Nero,he will be surprised.if not one will run only for one thing Nero.But yes,the best one in the world is undoubtedly Roxio.No comparison even in dreams.No trial download found anywhere,only purchase.Bundled with maybe most Dell PCs.Could not any legal or otherwise download and/or key.Only Ozzie can,the God of freebies and intelligence.


February 7, 2010
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ruchir9897 said:

I cant agree more Ozzie,Nero is most famous,but a bloatware.What it is unable to version 9 you are talking about or in hours,Ashampoo 2010 does with perfect ease.If one tests burning soft other than Nero,he will be surprised.if not one will run only for one thing Nero.But yes,the best one in the world is undoubtedly Roxio.No comparison even in dreams.No trial download found anywhere,only purchase.Bundled with maybe most Dell PCs.Could not any legal or otherwise download and/or key.Only Ozzie can,the God of freebies and intelligence.


LOL! And yikes – I just checked out the price of Roxio. Well, I've been searching and haven't come up with anything. Seems there were a number of giveaway comps for Roxio Creator over the Christmas period, but they've all finished now. But I'll keep my eyes open, and if I see anything I'll post straight away. Promise.

On another note, as truly lovely as your words are, I seem to be getting an unwarranted reputation for finding free stuff. Can I stress that that is only because I'm madly searching for study/work progs before the new semester starts, and also because our NGO has a number of projects on the go and sometimes it's hard to keep up with it all. So if some true god of freebies can find me software that fits those parameters, I will get down on my knees and kiss their feet! Well, metaphorically at least!  Wink

And now back to the hunt for Roxio!


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