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February 21, 2011
3:54 AM
MikeR
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Sorry if this is in the wrong place but I've hunted around the forum for an appropriate board and “artistic talent” seems reasonably appropriate.

This note is intended for folks who regularly post-process their out-of-camera images. I do, using an old version of Photoshop (which at the time of purchase cost a small fortune) because post-processing means I don't need to have a camera which attempts to do in-camera image manipulation (and fails.)

Couple of months back, I ran across the work of a guy called Rob Nelson. He's developed a 48-bit editor called Sagelight.  As a PS user, I didn't think it would be of much interest to me, but Rob offers one of those rare things: a 30-day trial of the app without nag screens or the crippling of any features. So I gave it a whirl.

As a hobby photographer, I've tried or actually used image editors of innumerable kinds since going from film to digital in 2003. I've always gone back to Photoshop because though 75% of its features are irrelevant to my needs (and, to be honest, I don't understand 'em anyway) the 25% of Photoshop that I do use is pretty damn good.

So: Rob Nelson's Sagelight. How useful did that prove during its one month free trial? Answer: as an image management app, it's astonishing. I've no idea how he's achieved it, but tasks that have taken me a lo-nn-g time in PS have been reduced to less than a couple of minutes in Sagelight. More to the point: the results have mached and often exceeded those from PS.

Reason for posting here? Well, like everyone else, I **hate** spam and spammers. But I'm also aware that there will be quite a few dot techies who enjoy digital photography. So. . . this *isn't* a spam message, rather a heads-up for other dot techies who may not have heard of Rob Nelson or his creation. The no-strings free 30 day trial is well worth exploring by any dot techie, bearing in mind that the download is small, the app is elegantly coded, and unlike PS or Adobe Lightroom,  can be used by both the novice and the pro from the get-go because its GUI is brilliant and its help system cleverly thought out.

I guess we're all aware of the work of many “little guys” in software development, and appreciate the enormous difficulties they have in contending with the power of the big companies. This note is therefore, above all else, a note about one such “little guy” (with whom I have absolutely no connection.)

I'm not going to stick a link in this post: if you're interested in transforming the images you take with your digital camera, just Google for Sagelight.

February 21, 2011
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Prema
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if  you are really lazy to Google it — here it here for you:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=SageLight&l=1

 

btw: i looked at the site, it seems interesting. i dont have much time right now, but i am thinking about trying it out :) thanks for the new program MikeR

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February 21, 2011
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Thanks prema — I didn't link because I didn't want to come on like a spammer.  Smile

Hope you enjoy yourself with Sagelight; I'm anything but an expert (actually, I'm still learning: the darn thing is deceptively simple, and then you start delving into its depths and oh-gosh-golly) but if you get stuck with anything, just post.

February 21, 2011
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It’s ok to post about cool programs :P

Especially if we know you around here.

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February 21, 2011
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Thanks Mike, looks like it's worth checking out.

It's funny how jaded we get, I found myself mumbling about $%#&ing spammers as I skim read, then stopped and re read after checking your name and post count ;)

I've been pretty happy with Paint.NET and sometimes GIMP for multi-layered projects (although I'm sure my efficiency is about 5% as I barely understand them Embarassed )  and FastStone/Picasa for simple colour/contrast/crop type operations.

 

Glad to see some “little guys” offering an alternative – especially if I can understand it! :)

February 22, 2011
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Big thanks to ol' Jean-Luc and WobblyWombat for bearing with me — I think Wobbly hit it bang on the nail with the remark about how jaded we've all become because of spammers, one consequence of which is that I really had to think hard about even posting here.

To be honest, what swung it was the fact it's dot.tech — no, seriously: I've benefited so much from information freely shared by Jean-Luc (Locutus), Ashraf, and so many others that I figured it was about time I put something back. There was also the fact that it truly is one of the “little guys” referred to here: had it been a giant company or, alternativelly, some outfit whose provenance was uncertain (and God knows, there's plenty of them!) I wouldn't have posted at all.

Wobbly: trust me, I'm the same with apps when it comes to photo editing. But Rob Nelson seems to have started with a blank sheet of paper and decided well, how is a complete novice (or numpty, as in my case) going to get to grips with what I'm doing here? And so he engineered the context-sensitive help arrangement I referred to. I found that using just two (!) default “buttons” (for ProLight balancing, and for Unsharp Masking) I achieved more with an image in two minutes than 20 minutes spent in Photoshop. For a little guy to take on the might of Adobe like that is some going (and the website he's written beats Adobe every which way, too.) Smile

February 22, 2011
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Thanks MikeR.  dotTech at it's best!  Laugh

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February 22, 2011
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Thanks for the link to this one.  I am new here and am always looking for good photo editing software.  I look forward to test driving this one.

Old Kazoo Maker

February 22, 2011
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jayesstee said:

Thanks MikeR.  dotTech at it's best!  Laugh


Well, I'm hoping so, jayesstee! Laugh  It is amazing though how dot tech grew up from nowhere so quickly to become a blog/website/forum considerably different from so many others out there: I've never seen anyone here being malicious, or humorless, or unhelpful (which is kind of the opposite where a lot of other forums — fora? Flora? Huh? — are concerned.) About the only thing I could never fathom was what we were all doing on something called 'politically-motivated.com' when nobody was political and the only one who seemed motivated to do very much at the beginning was, er, Ashraf. But of course, that was all to do with Ashraf's sense of humour, which has long been on the wierd side and the result of too many nights spent writing reviews. Good ol' dot tech! Wink
February 22, 2011
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I'd like to reiterate the thanks for the heads-up. I must admit, when I first saw this, I thought “spammer”. And then I saw it was MikeR posting, so I did what I always do when I see MikeR post, I sat back, cherished his literary mastery and took it all in. So thank you. On all counts.

“Peace if possible, truth at all costs.” – Martin Luther King Jr
February 22, 2011
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Hi Phoenix! Right then, in response to your utterly unfounded eulogy, all I can say is. . .

Check's in the post! Wink

February 22, 2011
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aswegohomestead said:

Thanks for the link to this one.  I am new here and am always looking for good photo editing software.  I look forward to test driving this one.

Old Kazoo Maker


Be interested to hear your thoughts (and those of any other dot.techies) who take this app for a trial spin. The Lady Boss (Mrs R) and I have but one camera, a little Panason Lumix DMC TZ3 we purchased on eBay three and a half years ago, refurbished in Mexico (sorry, the camera I mean, not eBay) so it was only £120 GBP. From which it will be immediately apparent: I like taking pictures, but I'm anything but in the super league when it comes to camera equipment. Mr Cheapo, that's me. Wink
February 22, 2011
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Indeed, it is a pretty cool program. The intro screen tutorial pop-ups are very nice and easy to understand. The thing I like about this software is that most editing is done through the scale sliding feature, which makes it fun and easy to experiment. I should add that the download size is only a mere 15MB! Thanks Mike!

February 22, 2011
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THANKS!  This looks very interesting.

February 23, 2011
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Jyo said:

Indeed, it is a pretty cool program. The intro screen tutorial pop-ups are very nice and easy to understand. The thing I like about this software is that most editing is done through the scale sliding feature, which makes it fun and easy to experiment. I should add that the download size is only a mere 15MB! Thanks Mike!


Hi Jyo: well done you for pointing that out, I'd completely forgotten to mention the download size. It was the first thing that surprised me when I DL'd, considering that (for example) Adobe Reader Free Version is an almost 60MB download — not that anyone would use AR.

There are (and always will be) a lot of dot.techies who are infinitely more knowledgable than I'll ever be about writing software code, so I'm assuming that the developer's use of SSE and MMX assembly language accounts for the absence of bloat? Well, er, I guess so — never mind code, I have enough trouble just writing letters. 

Anyway. Thanks again to everyone here like Jeffinprov for responding to my post in the spirit in which it was made. I know we're all fed up with spam and irritated beyond measure with trialware that comes with high recommendations but turns out to be crippled in use and bedevilled with nag screens, so I would've understood if my post had been misinterpreted. That everyone's been their usual decent selves really does say a lot about the calibre of this little community.Smile

 

February 27, 2014
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I’m busy with my first trials as a photographer, and now it seems to me that I am a better photographer than my photos say :) Thanks for the tips, I’m sure they will help me take better pictures.

February 28, 2014
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Great!! Its fantastic. ThanksEmbarassed

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