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January 29, 2010
12:45 AM
Locutus
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Today, I needed to install Adobe Shockwave player.  I downloaded it and installed it, like any usual person, and when it came time to install the Norton scan, I unchecked the box.  Instead, it placed a link to install on my desktop, which I deleted.  Pretty normal, right? 

No.

A few hours of active computing later, a window pops up:  what is it? Norton Security Scan.  It was downloading updates.  Yes.  A scanner I specifically said no to was autoupdating.  And after only ~2 hours of work.  So, Norton, your definitions change every two hours?  Amazing.  Oh!  And your scanner comes bundled with Adobe Shockwave?  And when someone says no to your software, that means yes?  Thank you for clearing that up.  You've lost one potential customer.  You too, Adobe.

~Locutus

*You have no idea how close I was to using the word dumb in those two paragraphs.

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January 29, 2010
5:30 AM
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That’s kind of weird, because I’ve never had Adobe offer me anything more than their software when I installed it. Then again, that was a few months ago…

Guh-vah-pay
January 29, 2010
9:19 AM
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aaaaaaghhrrrrr, I hate that Yell

January 29, 2010
10:56 AM
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I know how that sucks but you said you’ve lost a customer adobe. Doesn’t that mean you won’t be able to use flash since flash is made by adobe. And not a site on the web doesn’t have flash.

January 29, 2010
11:24 AM
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I agree with someguy. Good luck doing without adobe products. It IS a pretty annoying experience you had with them, but I must say I have never had them install third-party software with or without my OK.

I still don’t like them a whole lot though. When I decide I want to try out Premier, that doesn’t mean I want all their media players, media managers, update managers, download managers, and more installed with it. It took me FOREVER to get it all uninstalled.

So yeah, I’m not a huge fan of adobe either, even thought they make some quality software.

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January 29, 2010
11:25 AM
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Oops, my computer double-posted again. I wonder why it does that?

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January 29, 2010
1:25 PM
Locutus
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I mean I was considering Photoshop, or more likely Illustrator, but now- no.  Never.

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January 29, 2010
2:16 PM
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Well yea, when you install photoshop (cs2) it installs other stuff like adobe bridge, image ready, and extendscript toolkit along as well. Just telling you what to expect when you do change your mind.

January 29, 2010
3:31 PM
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I've used the trials before.  At least they don't give you opt outs and install it anyway! Yell

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February 1, 2010
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That experience would be enough to tick a person off.

Almost sounds like you got redirected to a scum-ware mirror site, where they put Norton (or what they say is norton) on your computer. And then the so called updates weren't updates, but more nastiness they wanted to install.

I trust you've run Malwarebytes or something similar since then.

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February 1, 2010
2:47 PM
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Seriously, Adobe is probably the greatest creation software company out there, you cant just reject them because of a bad experience with some of their outdated software (no one uses shockwave anymore =P) We owe like 60% of the internet to Adobe (and 25% to Sun) because of shockwave, flash, photoshop, dreamweaver, etc.

But I too have never had Adobe offer me anything but their own software, and I had a choice then too…

You got Pwnd
February 1, 2010
4:28 PM
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http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

This link, while not the one I had, offers McAfee. 
I think their free stuff comes with “free” antivirus scanners. 

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February 10, 2010
11:47 AM
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Locutus,

To be honest, I haven’t used Shockwave in years. If you’re using Firefox, there’s an addon that might help you – MediaPlayerConnectivity.

From the author:
“Allow you to launch embed video of website in an external application with a simple click * Replace the stream by a simple button * Add a download icon in the status bar * And/Or add links to right click * Works with RealMedia, QuickTime, WindowsMedia, Playlists, Flash, background sounds, Nullsoft video, Shockwave * Allow the use of any capable media player (with command line support) * Support Media Metafiles (ram, rpm, wmv, wm, wma, asx, asf, …) * Activable per media format * AutoPlay feature : automatically start to play the first media * Configuration wizardrn * SmartPlay : automatically search and choose the best source using metafile (‘+’ icon) if exist * List all media links on the web page * Use a sidebar for lists * Multilingual Note : for OSX users, please use v0.5.6 available with ‘Version History’ link (on left) or from my website, versions 0.6+ don’t works fine with OSX (I don’t have a Mac for my tests….).

Fwiw, I don’t think English is his first language (of course, I’m not sure it’s mine, either).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/446

hth
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February 13, 2010
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Photo editing without Adobe – try Serif PhotoPlus X3 Digital Studio.Whole lot cheaper products but very good none the less.I have bought  their products and continue to use them.They also do desktop publishing software and more.Suggest anyone interested look at the site http://www.serif.com/store/ Hope this helps

February 13, 2010
1:26 PM
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Black Raven-

So far, I only would need Photoshop, and I've been using GIMP (gimp.org) and it works great.

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