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September 20, 2012
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Prema
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So my Kaspersky Internet Security 2012 license is  about to come to an end and I'm thinking about upgrading to either KIS 2013 or something else. When i was searching online, I came across PCMag's "Top Internet Security Suites" and i was pretty surprised that Norton was the top choice (I guess back in the day, norton wasn't really favorably looked at).. then i looked at the A-V comparatives and norton wasn't tested, so I'm still thinking and deciding.

Do you guys have any recommendations or ideas?

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September 21, 2012
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Microsoft Essentials is all I been using for a couple of years now…

September 21, 2012
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I don't have an expert opinion, just personal preferences. I personally prefer Kaspersky Pure right now. It seems fast and I have not had any virus problems while using it and seems to have less false positives than some others. For example, it leaves Nirsoft alone.I have used Norton in the past and didn't like it at all but it could be better now. I really never recommend paying for one unless you use the trial first. You really never know what you are getting otherwise.

Just so you know, right now Frys.com is having a really good sale on antivirus products. Several products are free to $5 after rebates. This is the primary site that I get my antivirus software from as they seem to run the best rebates on a frequent basis. Right now they have Norton antivirus for $5 and Kaspersky Pure 2.0 for free after rebate. The Kaspersky rebate is good through September 27.

September 21, 2012
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@ Prema  Did you read the comments section of that article?  You need to go back and read the comments about that article!!!!!

DO NOT GET NORTON!! 

My suggestion is get Avast Free for AV, and Agnitum Outpost Firewall Free. 

@ Eric989  Personally I'm not impressed with Kaspersky.  It isn't bad, but if you want more control over your firewall then get my above recommendation.

September 21, 2012
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@Mags: I don't think Norton is as bad as you think nowadays, even if they're known for being bloated in the past (software can change and improve). I wouldn't say Norton is the best, but it has consistently scored close to the top spot in those av-comparative and avtest tests in recent years (it's really not bloated anymore, I got the chance to test it on a friend's computer). In any case, I would never pay for anti-malware software. 

 

And I wouldn't trust CNET's opinion on antivirus in any case. I mean, just look at the way they deal with downloads (making you download their download manager to install software) and also if you read their articles, you get the sense that they might be biased at times. They seem, at least to me, like one of those companies whose focus is mainly on money. And we all know how money can affect things…e.g. ehhem test results.

 

An interesting article I found: http://www.melih.com/2011/11/27/av-comparatives-org-bullying-censorship-and-financial-deals-with-anti-virus-vendors/ (makes me doubt all these "antivirus testing companies" all the more)

September 22, 2012
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@ Jyo Norton was the best in it's day before Symantec took it over.  Symantec ruined a great AV program. 

My opinion about Norton is not just my own, and from many others on the 'net, but also from pc gurus/technicians etc.  One of the first things many technicians do when fixing pcs for customers is to get rid of Norton (which BTW is not an easy task) and install free AV/Firewall programs.  (with the customer's approval of course)

I have been using Avast since 2002, and Agnitum Outpost Firewall since the late 90's.  Yes I have tried others from time to time, but always gone back to my main choices for protection.  I also use Malwarebytes, and WinPatrol Plus in my arsenal for protection.

I'm willing to try other SW for protection but up to this point I haven't found anything that is better than what I use, or even comes close.

However, don't just take my word on this also check out Ashraf's article

http://dottech.org/3174/top-6-programs-that-will-provide-the-best-security-for-you-and-your-computer-for-free/

Yes the article is old, but still holds true.  Maybe Ashraf could do an update on it, but I highly doubt it would change much.

As for CNET, bah humbug on them.  I never have trusted their opinion or downloads.

September 22, 2012
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@Mags: You are absolutely right about choosing freeware alternatives like avast rather than paying for something like Norton. However, I was just trying to point out that if you are going to pay, Norton would not be a bad choice. For a paid product, it performs just as well as the other top paid AV's out there. I honestly don't know why people keep thinking Norton is complete rubbish (it had its bad days, but as of now, Norton is performing quite well).

 

I think that Norton's bad past has now tarnished it's reputation, because it now seems no matter how much they improve their product, they will always be known for being bloated and horrible. 

September 22, 2012
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Two of the main things I hated about Norton was the updates and how hard it was to get rid of. I am stuck on dial-up and if I got too far behind on the updates, they were nearly impossible to complete. They either had no resume feature or else it was faulty and I would spend 3-5 24 hours days updating if I got more than 2 or 3 weeks behind. And years after uninstalling I would still find traces of Norton on my system. I don't remember if I had any other issues with it or not.

As for free alternatives I prefer Avira to Avast. I have three computers and one has Kaspersky, another Avira, and the third has Avast. I will eventually put Kaspersky on the Avira computer, but I have not used the Avast computer in a year or so, so I won't even bother turning it on. Avast is pretty nice but Avira is by far the best when it comes to ease of updates for slow internet users, which I know doesn't matter to most. What I don't like about Avira is that it is such a nag and apparently does not understand what "Always Ignore" means.

I too recommend WinPatrol and Malwarebytes. WinPatrol is the first thing I install on a new computer. It is great at preventing stuff from installing in the first place and the easiest way to prevent 1000 programs from autostarting with windows and stopping all of those silent update programs from running in the background.

September 22, 2012
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I remember once when I got infected in the past, Avira would "spam" me with pop-ups asking me what to do with the detected virus. My computer eventually froze because of that, but hey, can't beat their high detection rates.

 

You might wanna look into Panda Cloud too, I'm using it now and am quite content with it (just another suggestion).

September 25, 2012
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cool. thanks for all the replies. I'll take Mags' suggestion and download avast + outpost.

 

oh it looks like outpost is only offering a free security suite and not the free firewall. 

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September 25, 2012
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Prema said
cool. thanks for all the replies. I'll take Mags' suggestion and download avast + outpost.

 

oh it looks like outpost is only offering a free security suite and not the free firewall. 

Actually Outpost Firewall is called a free security suite, the download page is here http://free.agnitum.com/

 

When you install, just make sure you install the free version, not the pro version which is just a trial, otherwise you will be plagued with notices about the trial expiring.

@Jyo You may be right about Norton but because of its past history I'm highly suspicious.  I would never install it on my pc for 2 reasons, one because I consider it to be as bad as a virus, two because it is a b*tch to get rid of (always something left over) and another reason I abhor Norton is that it always comes bundled with new PCs, laptops etc. and even if you don't install it, and try to delete the installation exe, there will still be something left on the computer (as something does get installed during the initial setup.)

September 26, 2012
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MakeUseOf just did a comparison of some of the free ones. Their conclusion was that Avira was the best and Avast was a close second and was noted as being the least fussy. You can find the article here.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-antivirus-comparison-popular-choices-toetotoe/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_source=2012-09-26

September 27, 2012
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Eric989 said
MakeUseOf just did a comparison of some of the free ones. Their conclusion was that Avira was the best and Avast was a close second and was noted as being the least fussy. You can find the article here.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-antivirus-comparison-popular-choices-toetotoe/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_source=2012-09-26

http://dottech.org/freeware-reviews/14151/windows-best-free-antivirus-antimalware-program-microsoft-security-essentials-vs-avira-vs-avast-vs-avg/ ;-)

September 27, 2012
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I agree with Jyo in regards to Norton.  i have been a Norton Internet Security (NIS) user since 2004 and stopped with the 2010 version only because with work being slow in this economy, i had to cut costs.   NIS 2010 + are great firewalls/antivirus softwares to use.  They arent as slow as people think they are.  Usually it's based on the older versions people remember and judge it on.  These newer versions are much faster, less resource using vs. thier older versions. 

 

Right now I am using Avast free and NIS 2010 smokes Avast Free in performing a full system scan in speed and in the use of system resources.  I have a 500 gb HD and about 300 GBs of used space.  

 As for Norton being hard to remove, it isn't as difficult as it use to be.

 

As for firewall, i am using Emisoft Online Armor Free.   EOA is really simple to use and seems to do the trick.  Upon reading the posts above, I may check out that Agnitum Outpost Firewall.

 

If you're going free software, stick with Avast for AV and Emisoft Online Armor or Agnitum Outpost for firewall.

 

If you go for a paid internet security suite, use recent versions of NIS,  I have looked at McAfee and KAspersky through friends and they didnt impres me.   They also have slower scan speeds and take up more system resources to do so.

 

Some Extras to use would be MalwareBytes, SpywareBlaster, and OpenDNS.  Basically, click the link below

 

http://dottech.org/3174/top-6-programs-that-will-provide-the-best-security-for-you-and-your-computer-for-free/

 

As for CNET…what Jyo said.   I prefer to search for direct downloading from to the creators to any software, or using Filehippo rather than CNET.  Cool

September 28, 2012
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Just adding another review of free AV software done by Make Use of.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-antivirus-comparison-popular-choices-toetotoe/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_source=2012-09-26

@ Strahd & Jyo lets just agree to disagree re Norton. 

<rant>After my last run-in with Norton, I still will never ever use it!  Long story short, I bought a new Lenovo desktop with Win 7 Pro recently.  Experienced problems right from the initial set up, within 2 weeks it wouldn't load the OS  It went back to my tech guy (whom I purchased it from.)  He got it working perfectly, he removed Norton, or so he thought, and also complained about how difficult it was to get rid of.  When I got it back, it looked like it was gone.  BUT I found that even though Norton hadn't been installed there was a plug-in added to Firefox.  My tech did not install FF, I installed it after getting the pc back and since Norton was not installed, and the installation exe had been removed, how the heck did that happen? 

As mentioned previously, things do get installed from Norton during the initial setup of a pc (without permission) and are hard to find.  </rant>

September 28, 2012
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@mags

That's the same review I posted above. See post number 12.

September 28, 2012
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i didn't really like having my own personal firewall. (I guess I'm not used to monitoring and all those pop ups to confirm just got annoying so I installed the trial version of Bitdefender and it seems to be working nicely. 

 

It seems to be getting high marks, so hopefully I made a good choice. I did like Kaspersky, but 2013 just wouldn't work on my computer (it wouldn't load after a restart and the updates did not download and it was just a big mess for me)…

 

THanks guys for your help. Avast + Agnitum's Outpost was a great combo (while it lasted) :) thanks

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September 28, 2012
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If you end up liking the Bitdefender, here is a link to get it free after rebate.

http://www.frys.com/product/7237413?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

or $5 after rebate here with free shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832719106

Be sure to read the rebate stuff to make sure you are eligible and note that I think those are different products. One is Internet Security and the other is Total Security.

I am not sure why you were having problems with Kaspersky 2013 but my Kaspersky Pure is a different product anyway. One of the requirements for 2013 is to have Internet Explorer 8 installed but who knows what the reason for your problem was. Good Luck.

October 9, 2012
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If you don't like rebates, DownloadCrew has both versions of Bitdefender 3 user 2013 on sale. One is $20 and the other is $30.

http://store.downloadcrew.com/p27763-bitdefender_internet_security_2013_3-pc

http://store.downloadcrew.com/p28080-bitdefender_total_security_2013_3-pc

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