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Would it help if www.dottech.org had a countries counter aka world map plotter like Secunia has?
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February 27, 2010
3:46 AM
Ramesh Kumar
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Secunia Personal Inspector 1.5.0.0 has a cute feature & I wondered if this feature could be had on http://www.dottech.org? Secunia in fact added this nice feature only 6 weeks back!

Secunia offers a worldmap with plotpins to show which countries of the world Secunia has a membership presence in. Without taking that concept too literally or in the “exact same manner” I wonder if our blogsite could read a few pages from the Secunia book & benefit. Laugh After all good things exist all around us.

The world is said to have 195 or 196 or 223 countries according to experts.

I intuit that in the recent past we've added not only new members but perhaps members even from new countries too – that is from Pacific Rim & a few from some Asian countries too.

I see 3 advantages in this map idea. They are in italics:-

1) A map offers also offers good inspiration. This kind of inspiration supplements the inspiration offered by good articles & good freebies. All 3 types of inspirations are qualitatively different from each other. They might even reinforce each other.

2) Avataars make it difficult to determine how global a blogsite is. Btw I am not either advocating or not advocating globalism. Nor am I pro or anti avatars. It does not affect me one way or the other. I respect people's privacy.

3) A map indicates how a great blogsite spreads out not only in terms of members but also in terms of global geography. Watching a map can be inspiring. For some people it turns trickle to flood & further increases blogsite membership.

4) This map idea would be yet another method which sets apart our wonderful blogsite from other blogsites which in terms of genre are close to us. I suppose like a game of tennis (and I am loyal to our team aka http://www.dottech.org) a team wins not only when it plays well but also when the other team plays badly. Wink

I suggest this as a grateful blogger – as grateful a blogger as you. I see this as one more way to grow our family. I might be wrong? Of course Ashraf decides. He keeps investing to help this blog family always. It is so darned difficult to repay such a wonderful person.

What is your take on this map matter?

RameshSmile

February 27, 2010
5:46 AM
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I would at least be curious about the geographic-spread of dottech users.

February 27, 2010
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@Karen Smile

Absolutely. Besides it might give our loveable webmaster added dimensions of blogsite management! But then one does not need to teach his or her grandmother how to suck eggs.

Psssst…………………I do not for a moment suggest that Ashraf is my grandmother or that he or is it she Confused sucks eggs!

RameshSmile Good Morning Karen!

February 27, 2010
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Of course, I already have my location posted for the world to see, so I don't think a map with anonymous geographic info to be a privacy issue.  Maybe some people would though.

February 27, 2010
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Why would they Karen? They could always have an avataar which would make guessing difficult? They could also choose to not put “their geography destination” on their sideboard like you did.

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February 27, 2010
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I really doubt it would be a privacy issue because if the map was of the entire world the most we would narrow the locations down to would be a city.

I have often wondered where all these different dottechies come from and wouldn’t mid seeing it on a map.

Any comments? Questions? Outbursts?
February 27, 2010
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I could definetly put up a map. The only problem is perception. I don't know how people would like the map. They may think I am “tracking” them.

February 27, 2010
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I'd like to see a map.  Maybe you could have a poll about it?  People could always opt-out of providing geographic location if they wanted to.

February 27, 2010
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karen said:I'd like to see a map.  Maybe you could have a poll about it?  People could always opt-out of providing geographic location if they wanted to.


Hmmm interesting concept of people opting out. However, people should know that their IP always gives information on their geographic location, regardless of which website they visit. It is a matter of reading each website's privacy policy to see how the IP will be used (if at all).

February 27, 2010
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I was just thinking about the location in the profile info.  Forgot that you would know everyone’s IP.

February 27, 2010
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karen said:

I was just thinking about the location in the profile info.  Forgot that you would know everyone’s IP.


 

Yeah. Privacy and Internet just don’t mix. IPs were never designed to be “private”.

February 27, 2010
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Nothing’s really private, I know.  I just tend to forget sometimes since I don’t do anything on the internet that I care if anyone else knows about.

February 27, 2010
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karen said:

Nothing’s really private, I know.  I just tend to forget sometimes since I don’t do anything on the internet that I care if anyone else knows about.


 

Bingo. Same here. Wait till you read my post on Google =P.

February 27, 2010
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Uh, guys?  Your IP address won’t give anyone your location any closer than your city, or general area of the city if it’s a large city.  I couldn’t care less if people knew my IP address, because even if they wanted to find where I live an IP won’t help them.

So, yeah, it could be a security issue I guess, but I really couldn’t care less if people know what city I live in.

Any comments? Questions? Outbursts?
February 27, 2010
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Actually, IPS were specifically designed to NOT be private.  They had to organize them so they are distributed according to region, like an area code.  All the admins can already see our IPs, so its not much of a secret =S. 

 

A map would be interesting.

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February 27, 2010
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Ashraf said:

I could definetly put up a map. The only problem is perception. I don’t know how people would like the map. They may think I am “tracking” them.


 

@Ashraf Laugh

Please put up a map. Here’s why:-

1) Other websites have, & its appreciated.

2) You’ve tweaked your “forum stats” window I notice (wow!). You’ve also indicated a remark saying “Forum Time is America/Los_Angeles”. You have more than enough space available to say – “Country Count is only a country count & not a citywise count”. Your well worded statement would assuage any who feel vulnerable of getting city counted.

3)Else you can avoid “counting” altogether but only show country covered. This way you  can even omit a “count” altogether but only have a shading which shows a colour shade. You can at a later date evolve from “country shade” to “country count” in a phased manner. Sometimes change gets accepted when it is phased rather than immediate. Shaded means our beloved blogsite covers the country; unshaded means it doesn’t! The shading could be calibrated for a continuum ranging from extensive membership penetration to zero membership penetration or it could just be mono shading across all nations irrespective of whether they have more or less members.

4) Given your amazing knowledge & entrepreneurial gifts you can decide if most surfers are “uber paranoid” or “mildly paranaoid” or “non paranoid”.

  • Uber paranoid “won’t mind country shading”,
  • mildly paranoid “might mind city counting” aka “no. of members city by city”,
  • non paranoid (e.g. Karen, Pwnana & I) won’t mind even if both  country count & city count is given.

4)Please please please avoid a vote.

A clever mouseover pop up & a well positioned statement would also assuage fears in those who do not already know that in the cyberworld IP address is always known.

Avoid a vote for another reason too. Sometimes voting “throws up” a good idea. At other times voting unfortunately “throws out” a good idea. We all know that – the coca cola concentrate, the telephone & so many business decisions in software industry got voted out & subsequently the voters regretted it permanently. It would be sad if someone snitches this idea & we lost it or worse still became copycats. Smile This decision should only be entrepreneurial & not vote based. Voting would actually be harmful. So use ithe idea or drop the idea. Imagine if vested interests muticlick for dropping the idea or lots of new members temporarily enter simply in order to vote against this idea – because their own website does not have it Surprised Don’t we all know that our world has its fair share of people who are envious of others’ success? Therefore my friend choose either way, but don’t vote. Voting would also give you sampling errors & also non sampling errors. Remember only 13% voter partipation was there on the “advanced forums issue”

5)Ashraf the country count/ country shade feature should be clever enough to see beyond a proxy. As you know some use proxies for good reasons while others do so for bad reasons. Your feature should see through the proxy as well. Btw this point is no breach of cyber privacy laws. As Pwnana & Karen rightly point out – IP address can always be spotted. Since you are doing what can always be done you are not doing anything wrong.

6)I made point no. 6 because of the deep affection I have for you & for this site. As dottech grows  security concerns would grow along with it. A country shader could incidentally alert you faster to “hack threats”. We all know that there are “civic prone countries” & “hack prone countries” too. Therefore my suggestion would not only boost membership but also be an improvement on the security aspect too. I made this suggestion not just for innovation but also for sake of proactivity. Why do more customers throng retail stores which have large convex mirrors & statements like “this store is under electronic surveillance”. Why does more of retail business come from those types of stores rather than from stores which do not have it? QED

7) There is one last point Ashraf why this idea would be a great help. When a site is safe it invariably attracts “more visitors” because these “more visitors” feel safer precisely because that site is safe. A map gives you that good feeling.A map generates followers – “trickle to flood” other things remaining equal.

For ethical reasons I am unable to name a good website which suffered perhaps due to poor proxy mgt. I can private mail you if you wish, in order to prove the veracity of my statement & not just my affection behind it.

RameshSmile

 

 

 

 

February 28, 2010
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@Ashraf

Chief I am just kindly informing you that post count increase on the sideboard inceases but post count increase on forum stats is not simultaneously increasing. The latter lags behind at least by n=1. Just thought I’d let you know

RameshSmile

February 28, 2010
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@Ashraf Smile

Chief, Firefox 3.5.8 tab used to indicate the name of the forum thread one happens to be in. If one opened more than one tab then each tab would indicate the name of its own thread. Now Firefox 3.5.8 is no longer doing that. Just thought I’d let you know.

RameshSmile

February 28, 2010
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In all issues (real world & blog world) there are only 2 aspects isn’t it – “fact” & “perception” right?

Fact – World map neither affects security nor privacy nor even cyberlaws

Perception – Manner of execution rather than nature of strategy would affect perception. There are various ways to execute this idea. Not just one.

Of course Ashraf decides

RameshSmile

February 28, 2010
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@Ramesh:  It would be hard to get something that sees through proxies :/

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