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Computer Takes longer at Boot screen, longer to sign in and crashes more!
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February 21, 2010
3:38 AM
Ramesh Kumar
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Hi Conn09!Smile

Great news that you are out of the woods.  I do hope Steelers6 also does the same in the "System Dumps" thing.

Thanks for also leaving a good learning for all of us – This "Device Manager" thing. While we all pray that no dottechie suffers in the future like you did in the recent past, in the unfortunate event that they do, the learnings left behind by you would prove most helpful.

RameshSmile

February 21, 2010
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Thankyou Ramesh i also hope that Steelers6 manages to solve his problem i have been keeping a close and watchful eye on that

Difficult, to be sure…..but it shall be done!!
February 21, 2010
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I wish that only items that were actual physical devices could register as Devices. It is amazing what can get registered as a device.

My guess is that uninstalling the keylogger did not uninstall its device. But you'd also think that Windows would be more tolerant of missing devices.

February 21, 2010
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Locutus said "@Ramesh:  I may be wrong, but by definition, a log file can be deleted without harm to the OS.  It is simply a log of what has been done-in fact several cleaners delete them to free up space".

One example of a logfile which jvPowerTools 2009 says do not remove is. (In fact it said it is dangerous so do not remove it. It would have removed had I said yes. I did not remove this particular log. I removed other logs) -

c:\program file\alwil software\avast4\data\log\aswboot.log  Yesterday I had a Microsoft log file example as well but then I had to go somewhere & forgot. Today I do not have that Microsoft example to give you.

My learning has been – *do not remove all logfiles*

Yes log files do have a quality of "regenerativeness". But some logs are better left untouched because till they fully regenerate it could slow down your system. We've noticed quite a few "my computer has slowed down cases". Perhaps this too was one of the reasons

RameshSmile

February 22, 2010
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@Karen yeah its quite irritating when apps do that! I was very annoyed that windows had actually not uninstalled it, it should just automatically remove "Unknown Device"'s if the user or windows can not install drivers and identify it.:yell:

Unfortunately the problem came back today after i booted up my computer, the computer was running slightly slower:cry: again until i thought "RIGHT THATS IT I DONT CARE IF YOUR PART OF WINDOWS OR NOT YOUR GOING!!!:yell:" and i uninstalled the "Unknown Device" to find that the computer had stopped crashing and was back to normal!:lol:

I think that this may have finally solved it, program developers should just really think and work hard on it before they release thing to the Public!!

Thanks again to all that helped out and i hope that the information in this is able to help someone in the future.:cool:

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February 22, 2010
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I've gotten this mysterious "unknown device" before… Glad you got it all fixed!

@Ramesh

I completely get what your saying, but the way AV-Test does their tests is by installing thousands of viruses (including the rootkits) on the hard-drive and running the antivirus after. Norton was able to detect AND remove ALL of the rootkits. A perfect score from AVT is a prestigious thing, especially in this category. So yea if you've got any other AV you might need a separate rootkit finder, but the specific question was about Norton. Our points are not mutually exclusive, all I'm saying is that Conn specifically does not need a separate rootkit finder.

You got Pwnd
February 22, 2010
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@Karen & @Conn09 – I entirely agree. Yes Microsoft should make Windows OS manage devices much more effectively exactly in the manner both of you mentioned so that this type of problem does not recur.

RameshSmile

February 22, 2010
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@Pwnana – You've presented your point perfectly. Norton's perfect score on Rootkit removal can simply not be improved upon. I hope they maintain that 100% track record. Since they have & if they do then a Rootkit fighter is not required.

My dear friend "IF" however anyone did not have Norton AV at one point in time & if subsequently they migrated from another AV to Norton AV; then in the interim gap between uninstalling the previous AV & installing Norton (not just downloading the Norton installer) a rootkit does get in. After a rootkit gets in, whether it is Norton or any other AV, neither Norton or any other AV can remove a rootkit which has already got in.

I am doing self-introspection even as I write this. I am not trying to argue my case endlessly my dear dear friend. Neither are you. Smile I trust you & respect your expertise. I am not even trying to knock that expertise.

Tell me:-

1)Did you always have Norton?

2)Did you have Norton bundled with your OS & initial list of apps when you got your comp?

3)Have you ever migrated AV from something else to Norton?

All I am saying is if your answer to any of these 3 questions is "No" you "might" have rootkit infection. I say "might" & not "would". I hadn't reiterated one point in my earlier post. *If a rootkit gets in it cannot be removed even if an AV can remove it* Meaning if at a given stage you have a Norton installer but have not installed Norton yet using that installer then subsequently even Norton cannot remove that rootkit. Had Norton been already installed then of course Norton could have removed that devil.

Could you therefore recheck just two things:-

1) Can Norton remove a rootkit which has "already hooked on to a kernel"?

2) Or can Norton only remove a rootkit "before it has hooked on to the kernel"?

Btw I am equally delighted when you agree with me & equally delighted even when you disagree with me. The latter because it gives me a chance to correct myself – one among various reasons why dottech inspires me so much

RameshSmile

February 27, 2010
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Hi guys,

Guess what i knew it was Zemana Antilogger i just found the problem report in the windows diagnostics, i would insert the picture if i knew how to, but basically it said

"Drivers are causing Windows to start Slowly…"

"Name: Zemana Antilogger Driver (stand-alone)
Filename: AntiLog32.sys
Publisher: Zemana Ltd.
Date Reported: Mon Feb 1, 2010 9:03PM
Time Taken: 39.1 Seconds"

See the day i uninstalled it was Feb 1st and the time i restarted my computer was 9:03Pm thats when it started, so after all of this it was in fact Zemana AntiLogger. 39.1 SECONDS TO WORK!!! I COULD HAVE KILLED MYSELF IN THAT TIME!!!!

I know i sound like a broken record, but hopefully this will in fact help someone in the future, if ever you have this problem just refer whomever has the problem to this post.

Thanks again (for the Millionth time)and i hope that you all are well.

:cool:

P.s. Anyone who can tell me how to insert pictures into my posts, it would be much appreciated.

Difficult, to be sure…..but it shall be done!!
February 27, 2010
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@Conn99:

http://dottech.org/forums/reviewstutorials/dottech-tips-using-the-forums/

The image URL box is straightforward.  The image description is… I'm not going to explain that one.  The alignment is not as straightforward as one might think- it just chooses which side of a paragraph, not the post itself, the picture's little preview goes.  The dimensions are useless- the way the forum is set up they are ignored.  The same is true with the rest of the settings for images.

Click the little tree icon.

Oh, the site that was :(
February 28, 2010
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Conn09 said:

Hi guys,

Guess what i knew it was Zemana Antilogger i just found the problem report in the windows diagnostics, i would insert the picture if i knew how to, but basically it said

"Drivers are causing Windows to start Slowly…"

"Name: Zemana Antilogger Driver (stand-alone)

Filename: AntiLog32.sys

Publisher: Zemana Ltd.

Date Reported: Mon Feb 1, 2010 9:03PM

Time Taken: 39.1 Seconds"

Hi Conn09!Smile

What is the name of the diagnostic tool you used?

Ramesh

February 28, 2010
6:37 AM
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@Locutus: thanks, do the images have to be uploaded to a server or something because i cant seem to post them.

@Ramesh: The Actual diagnostics tool that is built into windows Vista. open Control Panel, click System and Maintenance, and then click Performance Information and Tools. In the Tasks list along the left, click Advanced tools. The last item on the resulting list is Generate a system health report.

Before you click on generate a system health report it shows you there, at the top.

 

 

 

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February 28, 2010
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I too had problems with Zemana Antilogger and had to remove it. Wasn't able to use my mouse without a huge fight to click on every single thing including the restart/shutdown buttons amongst many other problems with it.

After several days of fighting with the computer I think I've finally gotten it back to it's normal crappy Vista state.

I'm running Vista Ultimate on my desktop and it's beyond temperamental. For no reason it will just run slower than a snail and lockup. Most times a reboot is needed to come out of it….in fact many times it takes 2 or more consecutive reboots to do so. It's happened both right after boot and after it's been on for a while. Makes no sense….except that it's Vista and a Microsoft product.

As you can see…..I really dislike Windows Vista. Unfortunately I'm not able to upgrade at this time.

One thing that I didn't see mentioned….or maybe I just missed it along the way….

If you go to your "My Computer" screen and click on the drive you need to clean or check and then "Properties" at the top a window should open. Once opened that window will have a button in the middle that says "Disk Cleanup" and also on the next tab some other tools.

It has a short description of what each does and allows you to choose what to clean. I personally do this regularly…or at least check it…. along with keeping my security software up-to-date and watching.

I'm sure most of you already know that….but some might not.

February 28, 2010
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@Orchid: Sorry friend but i think you may have missed a few posts. No gloating involved here, but a lot of us, including myself are advanced users and already ran through that earlier, i kniw people i sound like im gloating here but i'm not trying to. Anyway the problem was in fact solved a while ago now. Thanks anyway Orchid and welcome to the Dottech Family.Smile

 

Also i have nothing against Vista, Orchid, although you might, a lot of people who complain about the operating system have no idea what they are doing, no offense, i'm sure that you understand, but others just follow the crowd and say that "Vista is rubbish" when as of yet i have met no problems that wouldn't appear on other OS's. I for one thought that Windows 7 would be rubbish, not because anyone else said but just because i looked into it, examined it and doubed it "the worst" by my standards, just becuse upon my inspection although it stated the minimum requirments very low, considering Vista's were much higher, the system ran horribly slow on a system with those requirments and basically i saw Windows 7 as a glammed up Vista, with more useless visual effects. Yes Windows 7 has some interesting new features, but it was just built on Vista, and although it states that it is more compatible, it isn't, in fact there is less hardware that is compatible with it and less programs too, yes it has a feature where you can tell it to run in compatiblility for windows xp or 98 or whatever, but you can do that on any version of windows from XP up, and the XP Mode in Vista is just a virtual machine of XP, you can do this easily just by making a virtual XP machine with your spare copy of Xp (if you have one) or for the pirates out there a "cracked" Version. So basically, take away all the new glam features and you'll find vista underthere.Really i just think that they released Windows 7 too early, i mean come on Vista has been out for what about 2 – 3 years, and then 7 just suddenly pops up, has beta testing for about 12 months and then is released, look at all the huge security holes that they keep finding, and its only been out for a few months, imaging how many in a few years!!!!!

Basically there are a lot of people who say that Windows Vista is crap, but dont actually know why, as they are just listening to what others say, and those that dont know really annoy me when they say that, then i say to them "why then" and they say "i dont know, everyone else said it was crap". I say that Windows 7 is crap, but i know why, as i have just explained, many people probably don't but i don't care, hey it may be suited to them, but not to me.

Sorry about that, thats my rant for the day.Embarassed

Sorry Orchid it wasn't aimed at you or anything its just a bad day and that sentance always P***** me off.Yell

 

Sorry.Embarassed

 


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February 28, 2010
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Sorry about that guys………………my head was about to explode……..

 

I've got so much going on at the moment, i'm just really stressed.Yell

 

NON OF THAT WAS AIMED AT OUR NEW MEMBER Orchid, IF YOU ARE HURT BY ANY OF THAT WHAT I HAVE JUST SAID THEN I APPOLOGIZE AND I AM DEEPLY SORRY MY FRIEND.Embarassed

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February 28, 2010
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Orchid said:

I'm sure most of you already know that….but some might not.


 

As you can clearly see I did say that most would already know but some might not know that…

I realize that you and many others are more advanced in computers.  However, there are many that come here and read the posts that aren't. 

Yes, I did see that it was resolved for you…..however I had seen a

post by another that was having issues and hadn't posted that those were

as well.

I was only offering a tip that I hadn't seen mentioned.  I also said I may have missed it if it was.  In doing so I surely didn't expect to be slammed and such.  I hadn't talked down to anyone nor was I rude in any way.  

 

About the Vista…..

I've been using Vista since it came out.  From the Vista Home Edition through the Ultimate Version.  I've also used the previous Windows Versions for many years before that.  I'm not a pro by any means nor do I claim to be….but I'm pretty well effienient with them.  I do believe that no matter how advanced one is there's always room to learn more and find new tips and tricks to use.

 

February 28, 2010
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NON OF THAT WAS AIMED AT OUR NEW MEMBER Orchid, IF YOU ARE HURT BY ANY
OF THAT WHAT I HAVE JUST SAID THEN I APPOLOGIZE AND I AM DEEPLY SORRY MY
FRIEND.Embarassed

Again i did say that non of that was aimed at you and i was not trying to slam you, i merely said that you may not have read the replys from earlier ans thought that if you were an inexperianced user, which i am not saying you are, you could have gained much experiance from the posts. As for my huge rant, that was not aimed at you merely my statement for the day, i have been wanting to state my opinion of Vista for a while now and have not had the chance nor the words to speak it, it was not aimed at you at all and i was not trying to "slam" you or anything. I know that you were only trying to help, and i have not actually seen anyone else post about a problem such as you were referring to, the only problems were from Ramesh, who simply wondered about the security of his computer, which i was also readily awaiting replys for.

Difficult, to be sure…..but it shall be done!!
February 28, 2010
2:51 PM
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Besides that, where very off topic here really now.

 

Oh well, still awaiting a reply to Ramesh's question actually.Embarassed

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