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Followup questions to my original post to this forun on 05-19-10
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June 18, 2010
10:48 PM
Enrico
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This is an up date to my first post on 05-19-10 where I stated that someone had offered to sell me an OEM Dell Windows Media Center CD so I could hopefully get my PC up and running again.

 

After going back and forth with the seller a few times I came to the determination that he might not be 100% legit. First he stated that the CD was sealed with a valid validation code. At one point in our conversation he told me “don’t worry if the validation code I give you doesn’t work because I’ll get you one that does.”

 

It was this and a few other statements that made me decide to not go through with the deal.

 

Now for my updated situation, and the hope someone here can guide me through getting my PC up and running.

 

I’m presently posting this from my troubled Gateway 835GM Media Center Edition PC using an Ubuntu 10.04 CD that I had ordered and recently received.

So, despite my rather limited experience, it would appear that my hard drive is OK as I’m able to write this, surf the web, watch videos, print, etc. without any problems.

 

When I boot up my PC I get this message:

Windows could not start because the following file is corrupt or missing.

<Windows root>  system32hal.dll.

Please reinstall a copy of the above file.

 

If I press esc. the message disappears and I can then put the Ubuntu 10.04 CD in as a trial and use my PC.

 

Here is some hopefully good news that someone here will be able to guide me through, if what I have will help me.

 

On 02-06-10 I made a Paragon Recovery CD using Paragon Professional Edition 9.0

 

On 02-07-10 I made (total of 4 CD’s) Paragon Hard Disk Cd’s using Paragon Professional Edition 9.0

 

With my limited knowledge I think I should be able to get my Windows OS up and running using these CD’s and some direction from forum members. Or I could be totally wrong.

 

Either way, my problem is that I don’t know what choice to make. Other that being able to reestablish an internet connection using the recovery CD, I haven’t tried anything else because I don’t know how to use the program correctly and I’m afraid I’ll totally ruin my system.

 

I hope someone here can assist me as I would like to get all the important information stored on my harddrive.

 

As an aside, I’m becoming more sure everyday that I also want to install Ubuntu 10.04 because it seems like a good OS, and many people are raving about it being as good or better than Windows 7.

 

First things first. Can I use the Paragon Professional Edition 9.0 Recovery CD and 4 hard disc backups to restore my pc?

 

Once again, I would like to thank everybody beforehand for their time spent on my behalf.

 

Thank you, I’m hoping for some good news.

 

Enrico

 

 

 

 

June 18, 2010
11:59 PM
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Is there any data that you have on your computer on the bad Windows install?

Let’s see.  Paragon Recovery CD?  That’s the one that is the Linux environment (according to their PDF about it).  (I’m going through your data, just seeing what we have.)

What happens when you boot off of the 1st of the HDD backup discs (the set of 4)?

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June 19, 2010
6:47 AM
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Whoa whoa whoa, you PAID for Ubuntu!? Wasn’t Ubuntu suppose to be free?

 

BTW, what store did you go to? One of those not-so-big-corporations are those bigger ones like Canada Computer, Best Buy, etc?

 

I remember a lot of people back then in 2001 bought cracked copies of Windows XP… aww man, those were the times that Microsoft was losing money I guess. At that time, there were next to no viruses at all! A few years later, more viruses were introduced to the wild, so more people started to buy the legits, so I guess that’s how Microsoft gained money… :P

 

Oh one las thing. In my opinion, if you already Windows XP installed or what every Windows OS is installed in your computer, there’s no need to install Ubuntu too. I mean, what’s the point if your’e not going to use it a lot? Windows has more features than Ubuntu and its quality and all that is much more sharper than Ubuntu… isn’t it? I dunno, it’s your choice. :)

 

~Joji~

 

 

June 19, 2010
9:56 AM
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 @Joji:   Not a very helpful post.

 

@Enrico:  Seriously it would be extremely great if you have an xp cd (doesn’t have to be media center at this point)… Your problem can be easily fixed with a system repair. Reformatting is another option but since you mentioned you have some data you do not want to lose…

No Install CD… Take out the drive and mount it on a friend’s pc so you can backup your files…

As far as your recovery CD’s, it’s usually booting up with the first, and the wizard will guide you through recovering the data on the other 4 CD’s.

Oh and don’t worry about ruining your system. It will tell you exactly what it’s doing, and if it says it will reformat your drive, just say no thank you. Wink

It’s goal is to restore your system exactly the way it was when the backup was made. You should have access to all your files if the restore is done properly.

 

June 19, 2010
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@Gioneo

I mean, if he’s not that good at computers, I don’t think having 2 OS is good… ’cause don’t they use up your computer’s memory too? Unless you have like a 1 TB of memory, then that’s a different story…

 

I don’t see the need of installing Ubuntu since it’s like “Windows’ little brother”, get the point?

 

@Enrico

Like Gioneo said, you could also reformat… but ugh just curious, are you able to go to safe mode? If so, you can directly safe all your important documents and all that from there, and do a nice reformat. :)

 

When I backup my stuff, what I do is to save up all my important documents and all that, and write down all the product keys you used for those programs on notepad. Then I would make a checklist on MS Word to make sure I have everything… that’s what I always do before I reformat my computer. :)

 

~Joji~

June 19, 2010
3:02 PM
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@Joji:  How, exactly, is Ubuntu Windows’ little brother?  They’re completely different OSes, and they stand for different things.  If OSes were people, they’d hate each other.  Plus, Ubuntu IMHO is better in the “eye candy” category, the “customizablility” category, the “ease-of-use” category (for people who haven’t used a computer ever), etc.  It’s better.

 

@Joji:  You realize an Ubuntu install takes 3GB of hard drive space?  (Also, no they don’t take up memory.  They take up hard drive space.)

 

@Joji:  Why would he not want to install Ubuntu if Windows isn’t working?  If Windows isn’t working, then Windows isn’t working.

 

@Enrico:  Please backup all important files if you care about anything you’ve done since you made the full hard drive backups.  Then boot off the first disc and follow the wizard to reinstall the backup.

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June 19, 2010
4:54 PM
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@Locu

Ohhhhhhhhh right right, that makes sense…

 

What I meant was that I thought Windows had more features and more stuff to it, so Ubuntu must have less than Windows has.

 

I mean quality, lack of games, and a few other things, I feel Ubuntu lacks what Windows has.

 

Though, if Windows isn’t working… and if there’s nothing he can do to repair it… shouldn’t he go to those stores that fix ‘em up for you? I suggest Canada Computers if there is one where Enrico lives… they are pro, good service, and trustworthy. :) Though that’s only an “IF”. If he can find the CD, then great. But if he can’t well, you can’t just leave Windows like that right?

 

~Joji~ 

June 19, 2010
9:31 PM
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Joji said:

What I meant was that I thought Windows had more features and more stuff to it, so Ubuntu must have less than Windows has.
 

I mean quality, lack of games, and a few other things, I feel Ubuntu lacks what Windows has.


 

What features does Ubuntu lack?  Cool graphics?

 

GamesSoftware?

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June 20, 2010
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@Locu

That’s pretty convincing, but for games, say Call of Duty 4, you got to do some settings or else it’ll crash on Ubuntu… but for Windows, it’s fully compatible.

 

Sure it has all those fancy looking animations, but Windows is the core OS of the world because it’s simple, straightforward, compatible with almost anything, and it’s easy for everyone to use?

 

~Joji~

June 20, 2010
2:17 PM
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Joji said:

@Locu

That’s pretty convincing, but for games, say Call of Duty 4, you got to do some settings or else it’ll crash on Ubuntu… but for Windows, it’s fully compatible.

 

Sure it has all those fancy looking animations, but Windows is the core OS of the world because it’s simple, straightforward, compatible with almost anything, and it’s easy for everyone to use?

 

~Joji~


 

Here’s how I would’ve worded that:

Locutus would’ve said:

That’s pretty convincing, but for software designed using proprietary graphics engines, it will only work on the operating system that is made by the people with the proprietary graphics.

Sure it has eye candy, which was the only reason to get Windows Vista, but Windows is the core OS of the world because… wait, it’s not any of those things.

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June 20, 2010
4:10 PM
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@Joji: try running your Windows software in WINE.  It may work, and won’t screw up your system.

 

@Joji and Locutus: I hate to break up your argument (really, I do), but let’s try helping the person with the troubles instead of hijacking the thread.

 

@Enrico: if you just need to repair, you shouldn’t need a license key, just the CD.  It shouldn’t be too hard to find a free XP recovery CD.  Maybe, and just maybe, you could contact Microsoft and ask them for just the iso without the license key.

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June 20, 2010
6:03 PM
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Uhm we already did answer his question. Either…

 

a) Use the recovery CD

b) Find a Win XP installer disc

c) Go to places like Canada Computers where they can fix ‘em for you at a certain price if all else fails.

 

~Joji~

June 20, 2010
6:51 PM
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I’m lobbying for A.

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June 20, 2010
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Locutus said:

I’m lobbying for A.


Question, A and B is the same thing right…. -_-” If so, my bad… Embarassed

 

~Joji~

June 20, 2010
7:53 PM
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Joji said:

Locutus said:

I’m lobbying for A.


Question, A and B is the same thing right…. -_-” If so, my bad… Embarassed
 

 

~Joji~


 

No–A is with the Paragon discs, B is with the Microsoft discs.  B is potentially incompatible–only Windows XP Media Center Edition discs would work, and they’re really hard to come by.

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