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February 21, 2010
9:43 PM
Ramesh Kumar
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February 1, 2010

Hi Steelers6! Smile

While it is important to be good let no one take advantage of your goodness. Meaning pepare to hit back hard; very hard! …….If required.

While you are waiting for your hard disk from Microsoft you might find it useful to check with guys who are dissatified with Dell, prepare a fact file proactively & if & when you prosecute do that with preparation & aplomb. Why let kindness be mistaken for weakness! For all you know there may even be a gripesite. No harm equipping yourself with facts since a lot of money has been spent. Also read your Dell agreement carefully. You might discover that it may be defined not just in terms of time & in terms of physical aspects too

This feels sad.

Good luck


February 23, 2010
8:48 PM
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November 15, 2009

So if the monitor has turned off because of inactivity and you move the mouse it crashes? Is it an immediat crash or is there some time? If it’s immediate then it definitely sounds like a BIOS problem now. Try the update, but make sure its under conditions where the computer is least likely to crash. So if you generally have some time between startup to crash then do it asap, because if the computer crashes during a BIOS update it’s possible that you will never use that computer again O_o. Don’t worry though, BIOS updates are usually quick.

If you have a Microsoft TechNet account I think you can download Windows install ISOs, but I don’t have one so I wouldn’t know.

You got Pwnd
February 25, 2010
11:03 AM
black raven
Forum Posts: 125
Member Since:
April 3, 2009

do you have a custom or non standard screen saver  running?cos if you do try disabling that.Also check your power options in the same settings

February 28, 2010
2:28 AM
Ramesh Kumar
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Forum Posts: 390
Member Since:
February 1, 2010

Steelers6 said:

I think it is a software issure, I’ve taken off all external addons, ie. the printer, backupdrive, wireless mouse and keyboard. I also updated all drivers and checked for a bios update. Nothing seems to work.

I’ll be calling MS again to get the full disk, hopefully that will install fine. I have a lot of programs intalled due to my work but all are compatible with Win 7.

I’m going to try getting the disk from MS. then run all of the checks you have so generously supplied.


Hi Steelers 6! Smile Hadn’t heard from you in a while. Has your problem been solved? It appears that from 5 possibilities you’ve narrowed it down somewhat.

  1. Bios
  2. Master Bootup
  3. Software
  4. Hardware Driver
  5. Hardware

At the moment you seem to think it is a software issue. You’ve already ruled out Bios & Master Bootup.Ok. Good. You are taking physical media only from Microsoft. Good. When I met you last inside this thread I had suggested you check 2 things –

  1. Verify whether all sys files are there on the physical media you have
  2. Verify whether every one of those files have system integrity

I had left you suggesting you use a “depending checker app” for you OS to take care of point number 1. I am now giving you the names of “good dependency checker apps. I am also giving you the names of some articles very useful in dependency checking. These are the credits for those articles so you can read them yourself.


Courtesy – Microsoft Systems Journal Sep 1998 – Under The Hood by Matt Pietrek. Matt Pietrek does advanced research for the

NuMega Labs of Compuware Corporation, and is the author of several books. His

Web site at has a FAQ

page and information on previous columns and articles


Names of dependency checker apps/tools :-

  1. NukeDLL
  3. ModuleList
  4. ToolHelp32




Steelers 6 please also refer to the article called – Scan,

Backup And Delete Orphan DLL Files

I am quoting 2 portions from this –

“DLL Archive has been designed to scan and backup

a computer system for orphan dll files. The program will identify all dll files and then verify if these files are references by files that load dll files. Orphan dlls are not references by any of these files”.



Archive is compatible with every version of the Windows operating system including Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7. It can be downloaded

from the developer’s website”.


Since in this post I’ve given the credits to the people who wrote these wonderful articles why don’t you read them to see if it helps you solve your problem?

This may help other Win7 dottechies too.Smile



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