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        	<title>Conn Platt on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey that's great Sandeep I'm glad that you fixed your problem finally.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:38:30 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Ramesh Kumar on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sandeep! <img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
<p>That&#39;s the second good news in 2 days. Yesterday Conn09 got out of the woods &#38; today you have. That now leaves only Steelers6 (System Dumps).</p>
<p>It is not important whether getting out of the woods was because of or inspite of someone. When a dottechie gets out of the woods all other dottechies are happy. Like Conn09 you too have left everyone with good learnings for the future</p>
<p>Ramesh<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:29:49 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Sandeep on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>This morning when i started my PC, services.exe again started consuming 50% CPU. Sorry Ramesh i didn&#39;t installed Process Tamer yet. Before rebooting my PC this morning there was an error message (as my PC was locked on friday, didn&#39;t shutdown) saying "Delayed write failed" pointing to somewhere here "C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem". I oked that message and did a reboot. After running Windows services.exe was consuming 50% CPU. Then i checked this post and as Karen says try disabling "Event Log" and "Error Reporting Service" i did that and rebooted the PC. Hurrrey the problem is gone.&#160;</p>
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<p>Thanks Guys for all your help. Keep it up.<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:11:41 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>black raven on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.prnwatch.com/prio.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.prnwatch.com/prio.html</a> this is an improved over task manager that I use<img title="Embarassed" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-embarassed.gif" alt="Embarassed" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:33:00 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Ramesh Kumar on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>@Sandeep<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
<p>@amnesia<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
<p>@Locutus<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /> - reading a classic &#38; also moderating a forum. Obviouly you have refined taste &#38; rare talents too<img title="Wink" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-wink.gif" alt="Wink" /> That&#39;s nice!</p>
<p>Thanks friends. They say if you give a person a fish you provide him a meal; but if you teach him how to fish you enable him to feed himself throughout his life. You&#39;ve taught me how to fish. Thanks! I am setting out to fish for a rootkit protector for my comp<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
<p>LOL everyone</p>
<p>Ramesh</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:32:47 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>amnesia on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>@ Ramesh</p>
<p>1, Anvir dosen&#39;t find rootkits, never used Process Tamer, but I would say no.</p>
<p>2, I use <a href="http://www.sophos.com/products/free-tools/sophos-anti-rootkit.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sophos Anti-Rootkit</a>.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve tried Panda Anti-Rootkit. Had a problem with it,&#160; unistalled it, left some piece&#39;s behind.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 01:34:47 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Ramesh Kumar on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Locutus</p>
<p>Ramesh<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:44:29 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Locutus on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I&#39;ve never used either of those pieces of software, so I can&#39;t help you there. <img title="Yell" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-yell.gif" alt="Yell" /></p>
<p>On the second note, I&#39;ve never had to deal with a rootkit, but here&#39;s some I&#39;ve found:</p>
<p><a href="http://download.cnet.com/Panda-Anti-Rootkit/3000-8022_4-10717196.html?tag=mncol" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://download.cnet.com/Panda-Anti-Rootkit/3000-8022_4-10717196.html?tag=mncol</a> - Panda Anti-Rootkit</p>
<p><a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897445.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897445.aspx</a> - RootkitRevealer</p>
<p>Both are from very big name companies.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:39:34 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Ramesh Kumar on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Locutus I kindly seek an answer to 2 quesions &#38; not just one. Sorry, my fault. Perhaps I should have phrased better:-&#160; <img title="Cry" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-cry.gif" alt="Cry" /></p>
<p>1) Do Anvir &#38; Process Tamer spot "visible" processes only or are also capable of spotting invisible (aka a rootkit) processes as well? I am optimistically hopeful because our very own doyen who reviewed it is with us. I say this with all the affection &#38; respect I possess Ashraf&#160; so don&#39;t go angry on me okay<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
<p>2) Which is the best rootkit revealer &#38; why?</p>
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<p>So these are 2 seperate issues for which I seek help from our family</p>
<p>Ramesh<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:18:14 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Locutus on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>@Ramesh:&#160; I only tried to think through part of your post (I was just reading some "classic" literature -.-), but it looks like you&#39;re looking for something to reveal rootkits.&#160; I can&#39;t say I&#39;ve tried this, but I can&#39;t say I&#39;ve ever had a rootkit either:</p>
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<p>Good luck!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:46:40 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s really a good question asked by Ramesh and sorry i don&#39;t have any answer to it.</p>
<p>Regarding Rootkit - there is a Microsoft program called RootkitRevealer which can be found at <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897445.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897445.aspx</a></p>
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<p>Thanks Guys.</p>
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<p>But i am really doubtfull how come my problem is gone by just installing the updated LAN drivers. I will try rebooting it again to see if it is really gone.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:45:50 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Ramesh Kumar on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>There is one introspection I hasten to share. In fact I cursed myself for not thinking out of the box fast enough. I&#39;d rushed to post it; mercifully Sandeep&#39;s problem had been solved by then.<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
<p><strong>Throughout Sandeep&#39;s trouble I inferred that the "naughty Process" was a "visible" process. That is, it was not a trojan or a rootkit. How daft of me.</strong> <strong>What if the devil was actually invisible?</strong> <img title="Cry" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-cry.gif" alt="Cry" /></p>
<p><strong>A rootkit/trojan process is a clever invisible devil of a process which hides itself even from a process manager itself!</strong></p>
<p>I&#39;d like someone to answer this if possible.</p>
<p>1) Does Anvir "visibilize" even an "invisible, rootkit, trojan process" or is it unable to do so?</p>
<p>2) If one wished to capture a rootkit trojan devil in Anvir can one do it this way - Physically count the number of processes in a 1, 2, 3, 4... basis &#38; compare that with the summarized count which Anvir shows you in its icon in the system tray? The difference means you are suffering a rootkit process.</p>
<p>3) Does Anvir&#39;s physical process count always match the process count showed in the tray? Or can the tray count be higher - the difference being a pointer that there is a rootkit devil eating the cpu. That&#39;s dicey because the devil eating cpu cycles is an "invisible" devil rather than a "visible" devil!</p>
<p>4) Do Anvir &#38; Process Tamer only catch/tame "visible" devils or "invisible" devils as well?</p>
<p>We fortunately have well-heeled stalwarts like Karen &#38; also savvy stalwarts like Ashraf whose high standing in the industry owes itself not only to his intellect &#38; honesty but also to I am sure excellent respect he commands from developers.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Therefore it would help dottechies if we get an answer to this question - does Anvir &#38; Process Tamer catch/tame only visible devils or invisible devils too.</strong></span><img title="Wink" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-wink.gif" alt="Wink" /></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Sandeep - for posterity sake invisible devilry aka rootkit gets caused sometimes in the time gap between uninstalling one antivirus &#38; installing another. Even a good antivirus catches a rootkit only if it enters AFTER that AV is installed AND NOT before that AV is installed</strong></span>.</p>
<p>Given that I shudder to think what invisible rootkit devils lurk in various computers.That&#39;s why there is a market for rootkit revealers even though there are good antivirus - it catches invisible devils even if your anti virus does not.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">I don&#39;t have one yet, but plan to.Which rootkit revealer is best &#38; why?</span>&#160; </strong></p>
<p>Ramesh<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:27:28 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Phew what a relief! Lovely start to a great new day!</p>
<p>Ramesh<img title="Smile" src="/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:18:13 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Pwnana on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Glad you got it <img src="http://dottech.org/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />17</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:47:34 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>karen on Services.exe consuming 50% CPU</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Bad LAN drivers could cause something like that.&#160; But I guess we&#39;ll never really know.</p>
<p>Glad your problem is fixed though.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:11:31 -0800</pubDate>
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