• JonE

    These are the kind of paranoia and trust issues that evolve when organizations like the gestapo, kgb, and nsa are around. And everybody starts looking at their neighbors wondering whether they can be trusted or maybe even government informants or even government agents.

    It’s crazy.

  • AFPhy6

    [@Seamus McSeamus] [@kevbo]

    Thank you. I hope you and others express those concepts as well as possible to people you meet as often as possible.

  • kevbo

    [@s66] Hopefully, the Chinese would be able to answer that question, since according to this article that agency claims only limited ability to search its own emails.

    http://www.propublica.org/article/nsa-says-it-cant-search-own-emails

    How’s that for a roadblock to accountability in the most open administration in history.

  • s66

    Someone needs to ask the Chinese exactly what the NSA has been spying on.

  • kevbo

    [@AFPhy6] Well said, I couldn’t agree more.

  • Seamus McSeamus

    [@AFPhy6]

    This is what I think goes right over the heads of most of the population. So many are more concerned with what the new British Prince’s name will be than with their own government spying on everyone, and how the information gained could be used nefariously.

  • AFPhy6

    I am not real concerned about the NSA’s spying on ME, HOWEVER, I am seriously concerned about their spying on people who I would otherwise trust to act on my behalf.

    Whether politicians or judges I elect, scientists, newsmen or spokesmen who I rely on for honest information, businessmen who I hope are acting based on the best information for their company — the NSA’s (and IRS’ and who knows what others) surveillance is gathering reams of information that can be used to blackmail those key players and force them (encourage them) to present only the “approved” response. It does discourage people from participating in activities which would be counter to the response “approved” by those in power, but the most immediate problem is this corruption by blackmail.

    This surveillance corrupts everything.